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02-23-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mendicant loafer
Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, said the new criminal laws are necessary.
“I have been heartsick with what’s been going on in our country, what young people are being encouraged to do,’’ she said.
Of COURSE she's from ****ing SNOWFLAKE.

THEY. ARE. THE. SNOWFLAKES.
02-23-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Can somebody produce a pay stub from one of these "professional" protesters? I could use some part-time work and protesting is perfect for me. Can someone direct me to the "get paid for protesting" website? That Arizona story is so ridiculous. Its against freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. No way should that stand up against a challenge. But first there would probably have to be a test case of some sort. Its true that these Republicans would gladly shred the constitution they claim to love so much.
Soros is way too smart to be handing out checks that can be traced back to him. It's straight cash homey.
02-23-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Soros is way too smart to be handing out checks that can be traced back to him. It's straight cash homey.
Oh goody. So I guess I'll just show up at the next protest. And I guess they'll have a line where I can get paid before I leave. Nice.
02-23-2017 , 11:18 AM
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"America was going down the tubes," said Bill Moro, a raspy-voiced and stubbly 50-something who voted for the first time ever for Trump. "They said our constitution was unconstitutional. That's what Obama said. And Clinton."

"[Trump] needs to drain the swamp of judges, too," he said. "I don't care what he does. I'm behind him 100 percent. Put it this way: If he became a dictator, and they said, 'We want him in forever,' he's my man. He's in. I'll never vote against him ... I love his power ... It's the power that does something to me."
try to reason with this

from http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...florida-rally/ about the rally
02-23-2017 , 11:21 AM
RICO laws suck and have a history of abuse and unfortunately not a history of being struck down by courts.

http://www.independent.org/publicati...icle.asp?a=215

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From the moment of its passage, civil libertarians and legal scholars have warned that the federal government’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act—the so-called RICO statute—is an open invitation to prosecutorial abuse. Now . . . many of those scholars, some of them former prosecutors, believe their anxieties have been realized. They argue that RICO’s widening application in an astonishing array of cases makes it imperative that Congress erase this law from the books.

We agree. A good law has several essential attributes: It is clear; it addresses itself to a specific and clearly defined form of illicit conduct; it prescribes a remedy or punishment proportionate to the damage done by the offense. Statutes that fail to meet these tests are enacted not in the cause of justice, but for the convenience of the state. RICO, in fact, is one of the latter.3
02-23-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
try to reason with this

from http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...florida-rally/ about the rally
An amazing display of honesty and self-awareness. Frightening too, I think. I think Trumpkins in general would nod in agreement and start being open about being fascists rather than repudiate this guy's thoughts.

Last edited by microbet; 02-23-2017 at 11:42 AM.
02-23-2017 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
try to reason with this

from http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...florida-rally/ about the rally
It's insanity.

"The Muslims are a big bad thing in Europe, they're absolutely disgusting, and they need to be shoved out. I don't want them in here. A Muslim, their religion is not a religion, it's their life. You might like Sharia Law, but I don't," she explained. "It's their way of life, is to take over the whole of America... and you people are so dumb you don't see it."
02-23-2017 , 11:36 AM
I'm glad TRUMP solved the national threat of transgenders using bathrooms.
02-23-2017 , 11:42 AM
Trump's approval rating at 39%. Does anyone know how low it has to go before the GOP starts considering impeachment? His approval is at 83% among republicans. I'm guessing sub 30%?

I think this question shows the average voter doesn't pay attention or give 2 ****s about politics. Over 40% haven't heard enough to give an opinion on Spicy. Like, how is this possible?

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release...ReleaseID=2431

6. Is your opinion of Sean Spicer favorable, unfavorable or haven't you heard enough about him?
WHITE......
COLLEGE DEG
Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom Yes No

Favorable 18% 42% 4% 15% 19% 17% 18% 26%
Unfavorable 40 12 63 39 40 40 49 25
Hvn't hrd enough 40 43 31 43 38 41 30 47
REFUSED 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 2

Last edited by RV Life; 02-23-2017 at 11:47 AM.
02-23-2017 , 11:46 AM
I'd guess a bit lower. Something approaching 50% within Republicans at least. The town halls seem to be going well. The path to impeachment lies in Republicans being afraid of losing their seats in 2018.
02-23-2017 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
I'm glad TRUMP solved the national threat of transgenders using bathrooms.
Remember all the people who told us Trump wouldn't be so bad for LGBT?
02-23-2017 , 11:54 AM
Words and fact reporting being weaponized text is an exciting development
02-23-2017 , 11:54 AM
Are we gonna do a CPAC thread? It's shaping up to be quite the fascinating event this year.


02-23-2017 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I'd guess a bit lower. Something approaching 50% within Republicans at least. The town halls seem to be going well. The path to impeachment lies in Republicans being afraid of losing their seats in 2018.
Ugh. Even if you lose 1% per week, that's still well over a year before it gets to 50%.
02-23-2017 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
You don't have to look a hundred years into the future to see that this is a bad post. A few decades or a decade or even right now and you can see that education isn't a guarantee of a good career, that more people are working harder for less value and especially less security, and that humans are becoming commodities that move around to wherever employers need them. In a world with more and more material abundance it should easier for people meet their needs, have security and stay in their communities, not harder. The road your talking about isn't the road to utopia, it's the other direction.

It sucks to see that you and your wife have had it so hard and that you had to leave your families and communities behind in order to get by. I hope you at least have your student debt paid off.
The thing is, people actually work less hard than ever before:



200 hours a year less than in the good old days, which is equivalent to taking the last 5 or so weeks of the year off. The anecdotes middle class people tell themselves about how hard they have it are based on not understanding how hard people had it in the past.
02-23-2017 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
The thing is, people actually work less hard than ever before:



200 hours a year less than in the good old days, which is equivalent to taking the last 5 or so weeks of the year off. The anecdotes middle class people tell themselves about how hard they have it are based on not understanding how hard people had it in the past.
Not to mention the automation of domestic tasks which has made taking care of the house+kitchen much, much less labor-consuming than it was 50 years ago.
02-23-2017 , 12:01 PM
MB said working harder for less value. Wages are stagnating.
02-23-2017 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
MB said working harder for less value. Wages are stagnating.
Yes this is the problem. And the bigger problem is that people, by and large, don't have the basic training in economics to see what's going on. They are susceptible to propaganda that their value is being stolen away by immigrants and black Americans, when really it's the 1% and (more prevalently) the 0.1% who are doing the stealing. Quite a racket they've got going on when they can steal from people and get those people to attack people further down on the socioeconomic ladder rather than looking at the real culprits.
02-23-2017 , 12:03 PM
Anyone who doesn't think at least some of the people in these town halls are activists posing as republicans are out of their minds. It's only been a few weeks of the new administration, there is no way the true GOP base would be this fired up over lack of Obamacare reform this fast. This was a piss poor effort of deception too if you ask me, at least wait til July or August to start this, then it might be remotely believable
02-23-2017 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BMOL33
Anyone who doesn't think at least some of the people in these town halls are activists posing as republicans are out of their minds. It's only been a few weeks of the new administration, there is no way the true GOP base would be this fired up over lack of Obamacare reform this fast. This was a piss poor effort of deception too if you ask me, at least wait til July or August to start this, then it might be remotely believable
You don't seem to understand how Town Halls work. All constituents have a right to be there, not just Republicans for a Republican Senator for example.
02-23-2017 , 12:07 PM
LOOOOL
02-23-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
That's what I'm trying to find out. I would think it would have to have something to do with ya know, race. Not whether someone is a citizen. Republicans are known for underhanded insults, disruption, and pure obstructionism at any cost. My question is how did you conclude it was racism and not one of these reasons?
Because Obama is black and Republicans are racist



Rick Santorum calls obama a Government N-----

look it up on you tube

Last edited by TheHip41; 02-23-2017 at 12:18 PM.
02-23-2017 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
The thing is, people actually work less hard than ever before:



200 hours a year less than in the good old days, which is equivalent to taking the last 5 or so weeks of the year off. The anecdotes middle class people tell themselves about how hard they have it are based on not understanding how hard people had it in the past.
That doesn't account for the massive growth of the number of women in the workforce. It should be hours worked per person period, not per employed person. Also, how does the growth of underemployed part timers affect that?

And anyway, as RV said, the comment you referred to was about wage stagnation, not hours worked. And the Warren video goes into great detail about how the "stagnant" incomes are really providing a lot less value to people.

Last edited by microbet; 02-23-2017 at 12:19 PM.
02-23-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
ICE is becoming a real life Milgram experiment in front of our eyes.

http://thehill.com/latino/320755-law...-from-hospital
I think the people who support Trump enjoy this kind of thing. Like they wish they could be there to give deportees once last kick over the border.

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Witnesses said Mr Olivas was shouting that he did not want to return to Mexico and seemed to be in severe distress.

He jumped off a bridge just yards from El Chaparral, the main border crossing point between the US city of San Diego and Tijuana in Mexico.
Local media said a plastic bag like those US customs officers put migrants' belongings in was next to the man.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-...eporting-story
02-23-2017 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BMOL33
Anyone who doesn't think at least some of the people in these town halls are activists posing as republicans are out of their minds. It's only been a few weeks of the new administration, there is no way the true GOP base would be this fired up over lack of Obamacare reform this fast. This was a piss poor effort of deception too if you ask me, at least wait til July or August to start this, then it might be remotely believable
LOL.

1. Politicians work for all Americans; not just the ones that voted for them.
2. A Democrat has every right to go to a town hall and hold the person in office accountable even if that person is a Republican.
3. Republicans in office better wake up because these angry voters are about to kick their sorry asses to the curb.

      
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