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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

12-01-2018 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
The bot needs a new avatar, imo.

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Originally Posted by ligastar
^^^^^

translation: "It has been a very ****ty week for me and I'd like to avoid the press for as long as possible."

also ... go ahead and update the picture in the Trump bot with the gif that was just added to the thread.
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Originally Posted by microbet
That animated GIF makes him look better than the unaltered version.
New avatar now imo
12-01-2018 , 02:06 PM
Let's not forget the serial groping of women as young as 16 http://time.com/5019182/george-hw-bu...ng-allegation/
12-01-2018 , 02:15 PM
holy **** i did completely forget about that
12-01-2018 , 02:48 PM
"David Cop-A-Feel"
12-01-2018 , 02:53 PM
George Pervert Whack 'Er Tush
12-01-2018 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonfiction
Reminder that Bush's father got wealthy by doing business with the Nazis...
Yes and no. Prescott Bush's bank, Union Banking Corporation, held assets for German steel magnate Fritz Thyssen and therefore got done under the Trading With The Enemy Act 1942. But, although Thyssen was a longtime Nazi, he opposed Kristallnacht and the invasion of Poland, he was expelled from the party and he was later sent to Sachsenhausen.

It was normal for American businessmen to do deals with the Nazis. Du Pont / GM, Ford, Standard Oil and IBM were up to their necks in deals with the Nazis, even after Pearl Harbor. Senator Harry Truman in 1942 described their activities as treason, but they just carried on. Almost all of the German army's trucks were built by Ford or GM, with the profits repatriated to the US via Swiss shell companies, and after the war, right through to the 1960s, the US government paid them stupendous sums in compensation for bomb damage to their precious plants.

Germany's coal-hydrogenation and ethyl-additive plants, which produced synthetic fuel for the Wehrmacht (including the Luftwaffe) were built with American capital and expertise, as were Germany's synthetic-rubber plants. The US government seized a number of Standard Oil's chemical patents for national use, and after the war SO sued for royalties. They lost, and appealed, and lost again, the US appeal judge ruling in 1947 that Standard Oil had to be considered an enemy asset in time of war.

IBM provided the Hollerith machines and staff that enabled the Holocaust. Each of the death camps had an IBM office attached, under US ownership and management, with profits repatriated to the US.

Then there's Focke-Wulf. A majority American-owned company. The Luftwaffe's best fighter plane, the Focke-Wulf 190, the scourge of American day bombers, was literally an American product, with profits repatriated to the US. And, again, the US government paid stupendous sums in compensation for bomb damage to Focke-Wulf plants.
12-01-2018 , 03:39 PM


Good stuff from a former federal prosecutor.
12-01-2018 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonfiction
Reminder that Bush's father got wealthy by doing business with the Nazis and was part of the business plot to have a coup against FDR. Bush was head of CIA during Iran Contra and then pardoned everyone involved when President. Also was responsible for invasion on Panama which killed thousands, overthrowing noreiga and trying him for crimes committed while on the CIA payroll. Also indirectly responsible for breaking up Yugoslavia and all the aftermath there. But yeah, guess he's technically the 3rd best President in the last 35+ years, so a great hero.
But that’s the problem right there. When the current president is Trump, everyone else is going to look so much better. I mean who here right now wouldn’t snap trade Trump for William Henry Harrison?
12-01-2018 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Yes and no. Prescott Bush's bank, Union Banking Corporation, held assets for German steel magnate Fritz Thyssen and therefore got done under the Trading With The Enemy Act 1942. But, although Thyssen was a longtime Nazi, he opposed Kristallnacht and the invasion of Poland, he was expelled from the party and he was later sent to Sachsenhausen.

It was normal for American businessmen to do deals with the Nazis. Du Pont / GM, Ford, Standard Oil and IBM were up to their necks in deals with the Nazis, even after Pearl Harbor. Senator Harry Truman in 1942 described their activities as treason, but they just carried on. Almost all of the German army's trucks were built by Ford or GM, with the profits repatriated to the US via Swiss shell companies, and after the war, right through to the 1960s, the US government paid them stupendous sums in compensation for bomb damage to their precious plants.

Germany's coal-hydrogenation and ethyl-additive plants, which produced synthetic fuel for the Wehrmacht (including the Luftwaffe) were built with American capital and expertise, as were Germany's synthetic-rubber plants. The US government seized a number of Standard Oil's chemical patents for national use, and after the war SO sued for royalties. They lost, and appealed, and lost again, the US appeal judge ruling in 1947 that Standard Oil had to be considered an enemy asset in time of war.

IBM provided the Hollerith machines and staff that enabled the Holocaust. Each of the death camps had an IBM office attached, under US ownership and management, with profits repatriated to the US.

Then there's Focke-Wulf. A majority American-owned company. The Luftwaffe's best fighter plane, the Focke-Wulf 190, the scourge of American day bombers, was literally an American product, with profits repatriated to the US. And, again, the US government paid stupendous sums in compensation for bomb damage to Focke-Wulf plants.
Interesting stuff. Was that all off the top of your head, or do you have an article that you could link?
12-01-2018 , 04:05 PM
I think if you're in a wheel chair, you should have carte blanche to grope whoever you want.
12-01-2018 , 04:37 PM
Trump Theory:
The Moscow Project was the crown jewel of the "Trump Org and elements of the GOP as Russian assets."
The deal for Trump was:
-To change the GOP policy language on sanctions regarding Crimea and Ukraine, as well as sanctions possibly involving individuals and/or companies.
-Support and spread the selective hacking and subsequent leaks of "Clinton dirt" and Russian troll farm fake news. (while denying, subverting and obstructing)
-Support Russia on NATO...and well on a lot of things really...

Trump gets in return:
-Support from Russia to help him win the election. If he wins they can't do the Moscow Project deal but instead they helped him win the Presidency.
-If he loses, continued partnership with the allure of Trump Tower Moscow:a money making and laundering machine with a $50m penthouse connection to the boss and other top oligarchs.
-Probably also a MAGAtv with continued alignment of Russian and Trump messaging.

Pretty much everyone expected him to lose, so the Moscow Project was really the plan all along. You also have to throw somewhere into the equation the NRA, Butina, Flynn, other GOP elements...
12-01-2018 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Yes and no. Prescott Bush's bank, Union Banking Corporation, held assets for German steel magnate Fritz Thyssen and therefore got done under the Trading With The Enemy Act 1942. But, although Thyssen was a longtime Nazi, he opposed Kristallnacht and the invasion of Poland, he was expelled from the party and he was later sent to Sachsenhausen.

It was normal for American businessmen to do deals with the Nazis. Du Pont / GM, Ford, Standard Oil and IBM were up to their necks in deals with the Nazis, even after Pearl Harbor. Senator Harry Truman in 1942 described their activities as treason, but they just carried on. Almost all of the German army's trucks were built by Ford or GM, with the profits repatriated to the US via Swiss shell companies, and after the war, right through to the 1960s, the US government paid them stupendous sums in compensation for bomb damage to their precious plants.

Germany's coal-hydrogenation and ethyl-additive plants, which produced synthetic fuel for the Wehrmacht (including the Luftwaffe) were built with American capital and expertise, as were Germany's synthetic-rubber plants. The US government seized a number of Standard Oil's chemical patents for national use, and after the war SO sued for royalties. They lost, and appealed, and lost again, the US appeal judge ruling in 1947 that Standard Oil had to be considered an enemy asset in time of war.

IBM provided the Hollerith machines and staff that enabled the Holocaust. Each of the death camps had an IBM office attached, under US ownership and management, with profits repatriated to the US.

Then there's Focke-Wulf. A majority American-owned company. The Luftwaffe's best fighter plane, the Focke-Wulf 190, the scourge of American day bombers, was literally an American product, with profits repatriated to the US. And, again, the US government paid stupendous sums in compensation for bomb damage to Focke-Wulf plants.
wtf really? that's horrifying. is there anywhere you can send me to learn more about this?
12-01-2018 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
wtf really? that's horrifying. is there anywhere you can send me to learn more about this?
I recommend getting a copy of IBM and the Holocaust by Edwin Black, it's a real page turner.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/..._the_Holocaust
12-01-2018 , 06:21 PM
Does Bill Clinton (or Obama for that matter) only pretend to have a significantly kinder opinion of HW than posters here? If he wasn't pretending what would that say about him?
12-01-2018 , 06:25 PM
No one cares.
12-01-2018 , 06:35 PM
The posters here will answer Sklansky's question as follows: Nobody here cares about Sklansky's questions. Ever.
12-01-2018 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Does Bill Clinton (or Obama for that matter) only pretend to have a significantly kinder opinion of HW than posters here?
No.

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If he wasn't pretending what would that say about him?
Nothing good.
12-01-2018 , 06:53 PM
12-01-2018 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Does Bill Clinton (or Obama for that matter) only pretend to have a significantly kinder opinion of HW than posters here?
No.
I suppose it takes a former President to understand the tough calls inherent to the job. I think they recognize good intention if not good decision or outcome. I guess Trump will not be welcome in the ex-Presidents club.
12-01-2018 , 07:12 PM
I hadn't paid attention to the audio before. Unlikely as it may be, I hope he gets to use this phrase in a prison cell.

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/sta...77731637899264
12-01-2018 , 07:13 PM
Just or be clear, we’re not going to all be nice when W dies, right?
12-01-2018 , 07:17 PM
i'll be very nice at the party i throw to celebrate the occasion
12-01-2018 , 07:20 PM
Bush Sr can **** himself just for this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...l/bushdrug.htm

They ended up convicting the guy in '91 on unrelated charges for stuff that took place prior. Spent 8 years in prison because Bush wanted to prove a point.
12-01-2018 , 07:28 PM
I'm laughing at these clips of GHWB visiting the troops out in the desert, full of vigor, right there in the mix. Trump is such a HUGE pussy. Just a colossal pussy the likes of which we haven't seen on this stage since I can remember. Just to clarify: Donald Trump is a HUGE pussy.
12-01-2018 , 07:38 PM
I think the only way Klansky should be responded to going forward is to change his post to something you believably expect him to say and respond to that instead

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
My parrot pecked open my dickhole and now every time I go to the bathroom I can see blood in my urine
Well David, that’s why you don’t floss naked

      
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