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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-22-2017 , 06:57 PM
quinnipiac poll 38 approve 55 disapprove.

still firmly in the honeymoon period.

WINNING
02-22-2017 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by will1530
This is pretty meh. Owning any sort of foreign property can disqualify you from obtaining a security clearance. As can having a dual citizen spouse, living with a person who uses medical marijuana, and having financial trouble after **** like losing a job during the recession.


Doesn't stop you from being precedent though.


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02-22-2017 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
I mean, that's one possible reason? The only thing it definitely isn't is racism. Again, racism is the idea that certain races are inherently inferior than others. Even if Trump thinks all black people know each other, that's not a racist belief, it's just blindingly stupid. But, let's go into other possible reasons why he made that comment to that reporter:



Defensive is definitely it, he probably thought the question was a plant/attack from the CBC on him.

Have you people not watched him ever before? A Jewish reporter started a question with essentially "My community KNOWS you are NOT antisemitic because of these reasons, but what can you do to stop the Antisemitism in the US" and he flipped out, told the reporter to sit down and went on about how he is not antisemitic.

The guy thinks every question is an attack on him personally.

Regardless, nothing racist about asking a black reporter if she knows people in the CBC, or even assuming that she does even if you are assuming it because she is black. That is not racism, it's not bigotry, sorry guys. If you're assuming she's genetically inferior in some way because she is black, that is racism.



Yep, they've got it all figured out. As long as the US invades Russia, and replaces Comey, they will win in 2020.
Dude, if your understanding of racism doesn't extend beyond Websters dictionary, don't lecture us like you are the expert. You are using the most stringent and naive definition. It is not the only one. Prejudging people based on race, like assuming that a black reporter knows the black caucus members personally because they are all black, is obviously racial prejudice, which fits many definitions of racism, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
02-22-2017 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Solar employed 374000 people in the US last year. It's the leading employer in the electrical power industry and employs far more people than coal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7541971.html
But solar is supplying .6% of energy in the US versus 33% for coal and 33% for gas. So coal miners are way more efficient workers
02-22-2017 , 07:08 PM
Hue,

As always, we can never, ever, ever suggest racism as being a possibility unless every single other possible explanation has been ruled out conclusively.
02-22-2017 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by eurodp
haha I do have dual citizenship tho so I'm also European! Parents moved to the US when I was 7 and I have a great grandmother that was born in the US. When I created that nickname I was going through a phase where on vacation in Europe I could you know drink and party, etc. while here -21! Needless to say I felt more freedom at the time in Europe! Took some growing up and living in Europe in the last 6 years to realize how 'Murican I actually am/was and how much I missed it!
ATC: Here's some clarification in case this isn't common knowledge among Europeans.

eurodp: Why I never -- just because a man has "euro" in his name, that doesn't mean anything. How dare you, sir!

*Hours Later*

eurodp: I am of course a citizen in Europe, hence my name.

:/
02-22-2017 , 07:14 PM
Clinton lost because liberals are calling Trump's remarks racist, when in fact the possibility exists that it was just a known racist simply using racial stereotypes. Keep it up and he'll win 2020. Got it.


Spoiler:
Putin! Comey! There, now the fate is sealed.
02-22-2017 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Hue,

As always, we can never, ever, ever suggest racism as being a possibility unless every single other possible explanation has been ruled out conclusively.
There is a way to almost prove mathematically that racism was not the main motivating factor for more than half of trump voters. Because over 20% of minorities voted for him. Presumably the vast majority of them were persuaded by non racist factors even though they had a personal reason to worry about him. More would have voted for him if they weren't worried. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that at least 30% of white voters would have been persuaded by non racist Trump arguments. 30% is more than half of 58% which I believe is the white trump vote.
02-22-2017 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
What percentage of white males/females with no college degree under 50 do you think voted for Trump?
Whites overall 18-29: 43% HRC, 47% DT ….. 12% of voters
Whites overall 30-44: 37% HRC, 54% DT ….. 16% of voters
Whites overall, no degree: 29% HRC, 66% DT

We can figure that +/-52% of whites 18-49 voted for Trump, so the answer to your question for whites < 50 with no degree is probably between 58%-62%.
02-22-2017 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
I mean, that's one possible reason? The only thing it definitely isn't is racism. Again, racism is the idea that certain races are inherently inferior than others. Even if Trump thinks all black people know each other, that's not a racist belief, it's just blindingly stupid. But, let's go into other possible reasons why he made that comment to that reporter:



Defensive is definitely it, he probably thought the question was a plant/attack from the CBC on him.

Have you people not watched him ever before? A Jewish reporter started a question with essentially "My community KNOWS you are NOT antisemitic because of these reasons, but what can you do to stop the Antisemitism in the US" and he flipped out, told the reporter to sit down and went on about how he is not antisemitic.

The guy thinks every question is an attack on him personally.

Regardless, nothing racist about asking a black reporter if she knows people in the CBC, or even assuming that she does even if you are assuming it because she is black. That is not racism, it's not bigotry, sorry guys. If you're assuming she's genetically inferior in some way because she is black, that is racism.



Yep, they've got it all figured out. As long as the US invades Russia, and replaces Comey, they will win in 2020.
So in that case trump was being a bigot but he is also a racist.

But good job looking out for racism. It needs a safe place these days.

Last edited by markksman; 02-22-2017 at 07:32 PM.
02-22-2017 , 07:27 PM
Speaking of Obamacare, From a Libertarian "friend" of mine.

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I have to own up to some hypocrisy....
As a libertarian I am strongly opposed to entitlements and government subsidies. I don't believe busnisess should ever be forced to offer their services nor should taxspayers be forced to foot the bill for said services. However, I needed healthcare today and my obamacare, completely footed the bill. I would not have been insured without it and who knows how big of hit my doctor's visit and 4 prescriptions would have been. Have to say, universal healthcare might not be the worst threat to free market capitalism, or grandiose abuse of government overreach.
- humble gratitude to the obama and the democratic party. (Don't get used to it )
02-22-2017 , 07:32 PM
I like how he concedes that maybe liberals were right about this one REALLY BIG thing...but he'll stick to his guns otherwise, thanks very much. Liberals may certainly be "wrong" about the balance of government/private industry but they sure as hell seem to be right about a lot in the end...
02-22-2017 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
So in that case trump was being a bigot but he is also a racist.

But good job whitesplaining racism. It needs a safe place these days.
FYP
02-22-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
But solar is supplying .6% of energy in the US versus 33% for coal and 33% for gas. So coal miners are way more efficient workers
You have to be very careful with solar that your numbers aren't 3 years old or 2 years old or even 1 year old. Also, the .6% stat I believe is central station only and did not count commercial or residential production.



http://www.seia.org/research-resourc...-industry-data

In 2016 Solar was the #1 source of new power in the US

The cost of solar is now lower than coal in some places and it's good that it employs a lot of people to get there as opposed to fossil fuels. Many states are still openly hostile to solar, but in California in 2015 7.7% of the power generated was from solar and that still ignores commercial and residential systems which are impossible to track in many cases. And that's 2015 - with solar growing about 30% or more per year.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/almanac/ele...tem_power.html
02-22-2017 , 07:44 PM
02-22-2017 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
There is a way to almost prove mathematically that racism was not the main motivating factor for more than half of trump voters. Because over 20% of minorities voted for him. Presumably the vast majority of them were persuaded by non racist factors even though they had a personal reason to worry about him. More would have voted for him if they weren't worried. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that at least 30% of white voters would have been persuaded by non racist Trump arguments. 30% is more than half of 58% which I believe is the white trump vote.
Begin with a simple algebraic equation:
a + b = c

Now, replace each letter with 4 of that letter minus 3 of that letter:
4a - 3a + 4b - 3b = 4c - 3c

Rearrange, so that the 4s are on the left and the 3s on the right
4a + 4b - 4c = 3a + 3b - 3c

Simplify by factoring:
4(a + b - c) = 3(a + b - c)

Then divide each side by a+b-c:
4 = 3
02-22-2017 , 07:52 PM
fwiw some new research on racism in voting came out, not precisely on Trump:
02-22-2017 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Whites overall 18-29: 43% HRC, 47% DT ….. 12% of voters
Whites overall 30-44: 37% HRC, 54% DT ….. 16% of voters
Whites overall, no degree: 29% HRC, 66% DT

We can figure that +/-52% of whites 18-49 voted for Trump, so the answer to your question for whites < 50 with no degree is probably between 58%-62%.
Thank you for this info!!!

I'm wondering in the same categories how Obama did in '08 and '12.
02-22-2017 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Dude, if your understanding of racism doesn't extend beyond Websters dictionary, don't lecture us like you are the expert. You are using the most stringent and naive definition. It is not the only one. Prejudging people based on race, like assuming that a black reporter knows the black caucus members personally because they are all black, is obviously racial prejudice, which fits many definitions of racism, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
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Originally Posted by markksman
So in that case trump was being a bigot but he is also a racist.

But good job looking out for racism. It needs a safe place these days.
It's not bigotry either.

It is prejudiced, if he was assuming that the reporter knew the CBC because she was black, and not simply because he thought she was asking the question on their behalf. But definitely not racism, definitely not bigotry.

Sorry that I use the dictionary to define words wookie, but words do have an agreed upon meaning, and dictionaries are generally the agreed upon place to find those meanings. Liberals trying to redefine racism to include things other than what it actually means just makes it a less powerful word. Please stop making racism a less powerful word? Please stop making Trump win?

And yeah, it probably isn't a terrible idea for you guys to rule out some other possibilities before jumping to the racism accusation, seeing how much you tend to over use it.
02-22-2017 , 07:58 PM
Hilarious & ironic the same people that reveled in the Tea Party are calling citizens at these GOP town halls paid protestors. #hypocrisy
02-22-2017 , 07:58 PM
Love the tears of all the little snowflakes here:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/oba...-02-22#respond

Is FoxNews actually trending toward being legitimate?
02-22-2017 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
Speaking of Obamacare, From a Libertarian "friend" of mine.
Herp a derp a deepity-doo.

Always so odd when their song changes the minute something they are against happens to them.
02-22-2017 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
Yep cost her WI, PA, MI, NC, FL, and OH.
Not Ohio.

She lost Ohio by 8 points.
02-22-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by General Tsao
It's not bigotry either.

It is prejudiced, if he was assuming that the reporter knew the CBC because she was black, and not simply because he thought she was asking the question on their behalf. But definitely not racism, definitely not bigotry.

Sorry that I use the dictionary to define words wookie, but words do have an agreed upon meaning, and dictionaries are generally the agreed upon place to find those meanings. Liberals trying to redefine racism to include things other than what it actually means just makes it a less powerful word. Please stop making racism a less powerful word? Please stop making Trump win?

And yeah, it probably isn't a terrible idea for you guys to rule out some other possibilities before jumping to the racism accusation, seeing how much you tend to over use it.
So, you concede racial prejudice, but now apparently subjecting people of a certain race to prejudices, but not reporters of other races, somehow doesn't meet the standard of treating people worse because of race? Is that because being prejudged is such a wonderful thing that black people should enjoy?
02-22-2017 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pudley4
Love the tears of all the little snowflakes here:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/oba...-02-22#respond

Is FoxNews actually trending toward being legitimate?
Do you actually use that site as a source often?

      
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