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11-20-2018 , 05:33 PM
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Defense firms say Trump’s Saudi arms deal will create 500 American jobs, while Trump claimed as many as 500,000
lol
11-20-2018 , 05:34 PM
This is where I get annoyed by partisans. Just like Clinton’s email thing was a non-issue so is Ivanka’s. Trump was a moron to make a big deal out of Clinton’s emails and anyone who makes a big deal of Ivanka’s is equally stupid.
11-20-2018 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is where I get annoyed by partisans. Just like Clinton’s email thing was a non-issue so is Ivanka’s. Trump was a moron to make a big deal out of Clinton’s emails and anyone who makes a big deal of Ivanka’s is equally stupid.
I'll have to politely disagree here. When you put the children in danger unwittingly you deserve more than a slap on the wrist.
11-20-2018 , 05:38 PM
When one party bases their campaign on something they themselves do it stops being a nothing burger.
11-20-2018 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is where I get annoyed by partisans. Just like Clinton’s email thing was a non-issue so is Ivanka’s. Trump was a moron to make a big deal out of Clinton’s emails and anyone who makes a big deal of Ivanka’s is equally stupid.
wat
11-20-2018 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is where I get annoyed by partisans. Just like Clinton’s email thing was a non-issue so is Ivanka’s. Trump was a moron to make a big deal out of Clinton’s emails and anyone who makes a big deal of Ivanka’s is equally stupid.
The difference is ivanka is such an airheaded doofus she did emails after her side made private email use a central political issue during their winning presidential campaign. When Hillary did emails it wasn’t uncommon and nobody gave a **** until republicans exhausted literally every other avenue at bringing her down. Ivanka is even dumber than Melania and that’s saying something because Melania is legit the worst First Lady ever and an ugly slut.
11-20-2018 , 05:46 PM
Conservative nonprofit with obscure roots and undisclosed funders paid Matthew Whitaker $1.2 million
In the three years after he arrived in Washington in 2014, Matthew G. Whitaker received more than $1.2 million as the leader of a charity that reported having no other employees, some of the best pay of his career.


The Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust described itself as a new watchdog nonprofit dedicated to exposing unethical conduct by public officials.

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Contrary to its claims in news releases and a tax filing, the group was created under a different name two years before Whitaker’s arrival, according to incorporation and IRS records. At least two of the organizers were involved in another conservative charity using the same address.


In its application to the IRS for status as a tax-exempt organization, the organizers reported that the group would study the impact of environmental regulations on businesses, records show. In that incarnation, the group took no action and “only existed on paper,” one man named in IRS filings as a board member told The Washington Post. Another named in a state filing as a board member said he never agreed to be on the board.




Whitaker’s 2017 pay from the charity — more than $500,000 for the first nine months, or half the charity’s receipts for the year, according to tax filings — and the group’s earlier, dormant incarnation have not been previously reported by media.
11-20-2018 , 05:50 PM
$1.2 million!?!

How many of these *******s are there floating around the griftosphere? This dude was a total nobody.
11-20-2018 , 05:52 PM
LOCK HIM UP
11-20-2018 , 05:58 PM
NYT: In April, Trump told McGahn he wanted to order the DOJ to prosecute Hillary and Comey

LOLOLOLOL

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President Trump told the White House counsel in the spring that he wanted to order the Justice Department to prosecute two of his political adversaries: his 2016 challenger, Hillary Clinton, and the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

The lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, rebuffed the president, saying that he had no authority to order a prosecution. Mr. McGahn said that while he could request an investigation, that too could prompt accusations of abuse of power. To underscore his point, Mr. McGahn had White House lawyers write a memo for Mr. Trump warning that if he asked law enforcement to investigate his rivals, he could face a range of consequences, including possible impeachment.
11-20-2018 , 05:59 PM
Clovis your take on the email thing is bad. Lolpublicans bring up Hillary and emails and need for investigations on a daily basis. It’s not like it is something they used to do.
11-20-2018 , 06:03 PM
Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton
In his conversation with Mr. McGahn, the president asked what stopped him from ordering the Justice Department to investigate Mr. Comey and Mrs. Clinton, the two people familiar with the conversation said. He did have that authority, Mr. McGahn said, but warned that making such a request could create a series of problems.

Mr. McGahn promised to write a memo outlining the president’s authorities. In the days that followed, lawyers in the White House Counsel’s Office wrote a several-page document in which they strongly cautioned Mr. Trump against asking the Justice Department to investigate anyone.

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It is unclear whether Mr. Trump read Mr. McGahn’s memo or whether he pursued the prosecutions further. But the president has continued to privately discuss the matter, including the possible appointment of a second special counsel to investigate both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Comey, according to two people who have spoken to Mr. Trump about the issue. He has also repeatedly expressed disappointment in the F.B.I. director, Christopher A. Wray, for failing to more aggressively investigate Mrs. Clinton, calling him weak, one of the people said.
#1 method for thwarting this president? Give him a reading assignment.
11-20-2018 , 06:05 PM
Well, Trump understands far better than his fancy pants lawyers that “don’t do that or you’ll be impeached” is indeed complete bull****.

Like we are all learning together the so called “rules” don’t mean ****; Trump, the serial con man, has known all along.
11-20-2018 , 06:07 PM


fine art
11-20-2018 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Clovis your take on the email thing is bad. Lolpublicans bring up Hillary and emails and need for investigations on a daily basis. It’s not like it is something they used to do.
Two wrongs make a right now?

They are morons for doing so with Clinton which doesn’t somehow magically make the left justified for doing the same thing with Ivanka.
11-20-2018 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata


fine art
If the fat grease-filled **** ran the length of one football field he would drop dead.
11-20-2018 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
They've been working on this for a year and a half and it seems to be fairly popular with deplorables. Plus, like with all laws, they're just going to lie about why they passed it and what it does and the base will eat it up unquestioned.
Republicans argued that the Obama-era regulation gave the federal government too much oversight on an issue that should have been decided at the state level.

“As we saw too often, the Obama administration went beyond its legal authority in creating legislation that limits the role of state governments,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said.
Muh States rights.
The base will eat it up until they realize it actually applies to them. As always.
11-20-2018 , 06:17 PM

https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/st...03884748300288

Issue the damn subpoena. C'mon!

Thing is, there are currently 36 sealed indictments in the DC District Court. Now, according to people in the know, that's definitely a good deal more than average (source: Paul Butler, former AUSA), but how many are Mueller's? Maybe 1, maybe 20. I hope Mueller drops an atomic elbow soon and unseals like 10 indictments simultaneously. While a hope is all it is, he's got something up his sleeve.
11-20-2018 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
$1.2 million!?!

How many of these *******s are there floating around the griftosphere? This dude was a total nobody.
Kinda like when I found out FTP was paying David Freaking Beyamine (like the 40th most popular poker celeb maybe?) $500k/year for sponsorship.
11-20-2018 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
$1.2 million!?!

How many of these *******s are there floating around the griftosphere? This dude was a total nobody.


Rick Scott made $200 million while governor of FL for eight years. And nobody cares
11-20-2018 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
It’s pretty bad. It is crazy because SA literally confessed responsibility when they arrested and indicted the people involved.

There is no question for anyone in the world who is responsible except for Trump.

Things just proceed to get worse for the US as it relates to the rest of the world. Countries will continue to take more liberties and take advantage of our imbecile president. I don’t even want to consider the damage that would be done if he got the elected.

Nobody is ever going to interact with the US with any semblance of good faith because zero is being offered in return and it’s tragically easy to get the President of the US to do whatever they want.
just wait until russia runs interpol and then it's open season on all the other journalists they've been arresting across the globe
11-20-2018 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Two wrongs make a right now?

They are morons for doing so with Clinton which doesn’t somehow magically make the left justified for doing the same thing with Ivanka.
The point isn't to weigh in on appropriate IT security measures here, it's to point out that the Trumps are hypocrites who act like the rules don't apply to them. This is an almost unbelievably good example. They have claimed that Hillary should be *in jail* for doing the exact same thing that Ivanka did. Come on.

Not really relevant, but it's also not a non-issue for people to be doing government business from their personal email addresses. It's inappropriate and it has obvious potential to subvert government security, recordkeeping and transparency requirements. It was bad when Hillary did it (although not remotely as serious as it was made out to be), and wrong now.
11-20-2018 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
The point isn't to weigh in on appropriate IT security measures here, it's to point out that the Trumps are hypocrites who act like the rules don't apply to them. This is an almost unbelievably good example. They have claimed that Hillary should be *in jail* for doing the exact same thing that Ivanka did. Come on.

Not really relevant, but it's also not a non-issue for people to be doing government business from their personal email addresses. It's inappropriate and it has obvious potential to subvert government security, recordkeeping and transparency requirements. It was bad when Hillary did it (although not remotely as serious as it was made out to be), and wrong now.
I’m not arguing the Trump’s aren’t hypocrites. Of course they are. It’s a little like saying the sun is hot, but whatever.

My beef is with the people who spent years saying Clinton did nothing wrong but now want to argue Ivanka did.

Your position is better if you think they both did something wrong which is true I guess but both are minor infractions at best.
11-20-2018 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
My beef is with the people who spent years saying Clinton did nothing wrong but now want to argue Ivanka did.
I'll be sure to wag my finger at those people if I ever happen to meet any
11-20-2018 , 07:02 PM
I was a vocal critic of Hillary using a private server for official email ITF, so I'm 100% entitled to yell LOCK HER UP at Ivanka now.

      
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