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11-20-2018 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1064676829313859584
didnt read the article, but as a "geologist" im sure he knows about underbrush and raking leaves and stuff.
11-20-2018 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
didnt read the article, but as a "geologist" im sure he knows about underbrush and raking leaves and stuff.
He's doing the normal Republican thing where they ignore what Trump actually says and goes with the normal Republican talking point. Which is fair enough, because, lets face it, Trump's 'raking the leaves' happened because someone told him about the Republican talking point about forest management and that talking point went in his brain and came out as raking leaves.
11-20-2018 , 02:32 PM
hey drumpf you absolute cretin obese game show host elderly buffoon, i thought the one thing you dopes were good at was artificially inflating der markt

can u at least do that
11-20-2018 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
He's doing the normal Republican thing where they ignore what Trump actually says and goes with the normal Republican talking point. Which is fair enough, because, lets face it, Trump's 'raking the leaves' happened because someone told him about the Republican talking point about forest management and that talking point went in his brain and came out as raking leaves.
i think this is my favorite..

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“It's not time for finger-pointing,” Zinke said. “We know the problem. It’s been years of neglect, and in many cases it’s been these radical environmentalists that want nature to take its course.…You know what? This is on them.”
not the time for finger pointing...but you know what.. it was these ****ing guys right there.. its on them..
11-20-2018 , 02:42 PM
Thought I was prepared for that Saudi Arabia statement.

Nope, even grading on the Trump curve, upsetting and disgraceful.
11-20-2018 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RunyonAve
holy ****



https://twitter.com/seungminkim/stat...37342656495619
Hahaha. I am not even being sarcastic - today is the day Trump finally became president.
11-20-2018 , 02:50 PM
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1064952476888031233
11-20-2018 , 02:54 PM
I honestly don't believe that our response would have been substantively different under previous administrations or a Hillary presidency, but that statement is still disgusting, and is significantly worse than just doing nothing.
11-20-2018 , 03:02 PM
Why are we even allies with SA? We have lots of oil, oil is cheap now, oil demand is forecast to fall due to alternative energies. They are just as bad as Iran. Why are we picking sides in a pissing contest over the middle east?
11-20-2018 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
I honestly don't believe that our response would have been substantively different under previous administrations or a Hillary presidency, but that statement is still disgusting, and is significantly worse than just doing nothing.
we can disagree about that, i think that the obama administration would definitely not have reacted this way.

but we also wouldnt have a obama or hillary out her stumping for SA over a make believe arms negotiation. i mean even that article above says the deal is roughly at 14.5 billion dollars and most of that was from the previous administrations. None of these arms agreements are ever completed.
11-20-2018 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
ROW should really sanction us as we're on the wrong side of everything, but I think Neo-Franco Spain et al aren't going to be on the right side either.
I'd love it but no one ever sanctions leading nations. I'm doing my own inconsequential boycott of USA#1 by buying orange juice from Spain instead, but point taken about them.
11-20-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
I honestly don't believe that our response would have been substantively different under previous administrations or a Hillary presidency, but that statement is still disgusting, and is significantly worse than just doing nothing.
I think SA might not have been so brazen with a different President.
11-20-2018 , 03:38 PM
It’s pretty bad. It is crazy because SA literally confessed responsibility when they arrested and indicted the people involved.

There is no question for anyone in the world who is responsible except for Trump.

Things just proceed to get worse for the US as it relates to the rest of the world. Countries will continue to take more liberties and take advantage of our imbecile president. I don’t even want to consider the damage that would be done if he got the elected.

Nobody is ever going to interact with the US with any semblance of good faith because zero is being offered in return and it’s tragically easy to get the President of the US to do whatever they want.
11-20-2018 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I don't know - lots of white people use unemployment insurance and aren't going to be thrilled about taking a drug test.

Unless Republicans can somehow find a way to only implement this in minority areas (which I'm sure they will brainstorm on for a long time) - I don't see this flying.
11-20-2018 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
I honestly don't believe that our response would have been substantively different under previous administrations or a Hillary presidency, but that statement is still disgusting, and is significantly worse than just doing nothing.
I agree with this. I'm sure the same bull**** was fed to previous administrations by KSA but they were smart enough not to believe it and tell others about it.

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Why are we even allies with SA? We have lots of oil, oil is cheap now, oil demand is forecast to fall due to alternative energies. They are just as bad as Iran. Why are we picking sides in a pissing contest over the middle east?
We use them as a proxy to control and dominate the Middle East. We've been doing it for decades.

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Originally Posted by Paul D
I think SA might not have been so brazen with a different President.
This is very possible.

I'm confident that Trump's financial interests in KSA are causing a conflict wrt his response.
11-20-2018 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
I think SA might not have been so brazen with a different President.
This. Trump ain't president, Khashoggi ain't getting killed.
11-20-2018 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Why are we even allies with SA? We have lots of oil, oil is cheap now, oil demand is forecast to fall due to alternative energies. They are just as bad as Iran. Why are we picking sides in a pissing contest over the middle east?
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We use them as a proxy to control and dominate the Middle East. We've been doing it for decades.
trade, intelligence, basing

plus Islamicist containment
11-20-2018 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I don't know - lots of white people use unemployment insurance and aren't going to be thrilled about taking a drug test.

Unless Republicans can somehow find a way to only implement this in minority areas (which I'm sure they will brainstorm on for a long time) - I don't see this flying.
They've been working on this for a year and a half and it seems to be fairly popular with deplorables. Plus, like with all laws, they're just going to lie about why they passed it and what it does and the base will eat it up unquestioned.
Republicans argued that the Obama-era regulation gave the federal government too much oversight on an issue that should have been decided at the state level.

“As we saw too often, the Obama administration went beyond its legal authority in creating legislation that limits the role of state governments,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said.
Muh States rights.
11-20-2018 , 04:08 PM
The strange thing about the Ivanka E-Mail thing is that i already forgot about her actually playing a role in the government and how ****ing weird it is, that he got his daughter a job in the White House.

The good old times were we were still complaining about Nepotism...

But well, the US is a weird country anyway, with all the filthy unraked woods.
11-20-2018 , 04:48 PM


Shocking.

Also lol Trump voters/supporters.
11-20-2018 , 04:51 PM
It’s probably only under trump that they think (correctly) that they can get away with this ****. Probably never even happens under any previous administration regardless of party.
11-20-2018 , 04:58 PM
Rawstory reported that Bolton had hand delivered a road map to the King to help them push the blame onto others in Royal Family and off his son.

So not only are they openly ignoring what happened, they are likely proactively participating in the cover up.
11-20-2018 , 05:03 PM


https://mobile.twitter.com/jules_su/...54767870730240

I assume Fox is just exercising Journalistic Restraint.
11-20-2018 , 05:03 PM
Maybe the house investigation will turn up info on the collusion in the SA coverup
11-20-2018 , 05:18 PM
Imo MBS would still be trying to kill Kash, because MBS is an evil piece of ****, but the killing would not have happened in turkey or any other reasonable respecting country....(not that turkey is ).
And Kash new this, so he would have took precautions, knowing this.

      
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