I've done that a few times on Facebook, but I always cite it as random from random forum.

How is Trump ripping anyone off by using the same service as every other president in recent history? (no idea when the SS became a thing so I don't know how far back it goes). Should he have had less kids?

I agree government overspending is major problem, but we should work towards solving that issue instead of pretending Trump personally wrote up some huge bill instead of the likely scenario where he simply said "sure, I'll accept secret service protection for my family"

This is tabloid news that also denied an opposing point of view before he had the chance to speak. To suggest the President is at fault for using a service offered to him and his predecessors is crazy. Show me proof where he wrote up an exaggerated cost himself and I'll denounce him for life, he isn't doing anything wrong here. He said "give me and my family the protection" and some pencil-pusher wrote up a bill, this doesn't make him unfit, it's just an attempt to illogically hurt the public's view of him, and more proof that the government needs a major overhaul which Trump may or may not offer, that remains to be seen

Dude he is hosting foreign leaders at his private club and directly profiting on what the government has to spend to buy it out. Why can't he do like everyone else and just host them at the white house or camp david.

edit: He has a personal financial incentive to fly down to Mar a Lago

He is not "using it like every other president in history." That is the problem!

Numerous times in the campaign he raised rates at his properties that intelligence and security were staying at. He doubled most of mar a lago prices after his win as well. He profits from this extensively, to the tune of hundreds of thousands a week.

You would have been fine with hillary profiting millions off of the secret service?

I'm pretty sure no one watching the show would come away thinking the bolded.

Ok, so the press learns that protecting the Trump costs a ****ton of money (especially compared to Obama) and the reasons why that's the case. How would you suggest they report it?

What exactly is the opposing viewpoint? If the numbers and breakdown are accurate (presumably that level of confirmation was already done), they're hopefully not going to dispute them.

Troll or just shill?

I'm putting them in quotes....does that count?

If he's committed a crime then surely he will be impeached any day now and I would fully admit he's done something wrong. If he's not committing a crime then I don't see the problem aside from a need to reevaluate our laws

How is he not using it like every other president? what's changed?

It's a crime now to change rates as a private citizen during your campaign?

The membership fees were changed back to $200k, back to their previous rate of $200k after having dropped them to $100k when the economy fell.

Trump is profiting off the secret service? Gonna need sources for that

The opposing view point is that it's not newsworthy because Trump is not in charge of secret service fees, he simply signed up for protection of the first family. I agree the government has been guilty of mass overspending for a very long time, but those costs are not Trumps fault, making Lemon's story an attempt at undue defemation

Do you really think Trump signed up for secret service protection and also wrote out the amount that should be charged for that protection for his own personal profit?

PS Bobby Cox is the GOAT manager, he has a lot of Trump in him

Yes, it's super obvious that Trump's businesses profit by gouging the Secret Service.

No, I don't have any confidence you're sincere about anything you say.

Pence would be truly horrendous, but he would be horrendous in a more normal, political sense. Trump is a threat to the healthy institutional functioning of what has been a quite stable government for a long time. Trump's incompetence and foolishness threatens the context. Pence would just be horrible within the context and the damage he would do would be for the most part correctable.

"Super obvious" =/= proof that he's profiting off anything. Is he charging the secret service to stay at his hotels? Would that even be that illegal? Links?

If opinions were admissible in court then yeah he'd be in jail by now due to random speculation, but we live in a system based on cold hard evidence even if we disagree, not simply opinion. There's a reason he hasn't been charged with anything yet even though the media and this thread is throwing a fit

I'm fairly confident that Trump can't distinguish conceptually between 10K and 10billion, but that he's happy to put either in his offhsore accounts.

QFT

The haters won't like you dismissing their opinions. Facts dont really seem to matter to them It's all about the end goal

tHE NEXT PRESIDENT

Paying for President Trump

It is real news when the President lies. It is real news when the President engages in blatant hypocrisy. It is real news when the President takes excessive vacations on the tax payers' dime. It is real news when maintaining the First Family's lifestyle projects to cost the tax payer in excess of all previous First Families by an order of magnitude.

You will learn as bitchboy Paris Dennard learned that crying "fake news" at facts will not suffice to silence the free press.

Trump is nothing more than a embarrassment to people who cringe at his awful speeches as for his ability to do any long term damage he doesn't have any. The fallacy that the President has the power to make serious and life changing decisions is just that a fallacy all he is is a spokesperson for the USA. Look for the money and that is where you will find the real power, it amazes me that people look at this one person and think he is going to do something amazing to change their lives.

That's the state and local rate only. State and local taxes are very regressive due to the reliance on sales tax.

This article includes some interesting Trump family history and goes into a fair bit of detail about his mob connections. https://www.lrb.co.uk/v39/n04/sidney...e-trump-family (warning, 10k words)

Didn't you vote Trump on the theory that he would kill 99% of humanity? Why are you shook over some corruption?