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02-19-2017 , 05:19 PM
My understanding is they are supposed to be refugee camps near the Turkish border.
02-19-2017 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Trump hasn't tweeted in 24 hours did he die?
Stop teasing me.
02-19-2017 , 05:22 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-t...history-2017-2

"Professor Ronald L Feinman predicted that the former reality TV star will stay in the top job "between the 31 days of William Henry Harrison in 1841," who died pneumonia and the "199 days of James A. Garfield in 1881," who died 79 days after he was shot by an assassin "after terrible suffering and medical malpractice."

"In a blog post, he added that he thought it was likely that Trump will be impeached or forced to resign in a matter of weeks."
02-19-2017 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
We have a chezlaw poster (marn) who has this as their favorite subject and 100% believes it.
ya I read his posts and just kinda took it for granted that he knew wat he was talking about as far as "no-go zones" and rapes and all that. I mean wtf else am I gonna think bc I never hear anything about sweden and here is a legit swedish dood saying stuff.

the trigger was his most recent posting surge about breitbart being the only western source that spoke truthfully about sweden. the light bulb went off and I looked into it.

its all bs. his whole posting is blatantly false. I felt pretty stupid.

but really, that is a pretty tough indictment of chezland. it fooled me and Im pretty much a regressive sjw. imagine the damage it does to ppl more inclined to believe that stuff.
02-19-2017 , 05:36 PM
what are you guys talking about when refering to chezlaw/chezland?
is that a site?
02-19-2017 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
- Sam Harris
Wow. I had been largely ambivalent towards SH - it'll be tough to see past this one.
02-19-2017 , 05:40 PM
since just under half think trump's policies will help their own family--seems like a reasonable strat for dems at this point is to let them blow up aca. I hate politics.

Media shouldn't be talking about sweden so much. lol @ that though. We all have a habit of picking on the easiest one first. Go for the most important instead.
02-19-2017 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kre8tive



Lololol
So he changed his position from reasonable to nuts because this is how you win elections and he won it. Iam not sure that Trump is the one we should laugh at for this.
02-19-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
since just under half think trump's policies will help their own family--seems like a reasonable strat for dems at this point is to let them blow up aca. I hate politics.
I think the Democrats should insist upon calling whatever is proposed either "Trumpcare" or "The Republican Care Act". Then if that wording is included in the bill, they could let it pass narrowly.
02-19-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kre8tive
Good post.

It's a great example of good ole fasioned fear mongerin'. Focusing on supposed or over exaggerated threats can divert attention from more tangible though less popular, and more importantly, less profitable issues.

Rather than addressing pollution and climate change, things that will have devastating impact on this country for generations to come, this game show host would rather work his slappies into a frenzy about illegals coming into the country and raping all the white women. Instead of looking at discriminatory sentencing guidelines and police procedures domestically , he instead wants his mouth breathing supporters worrying about radical islamic terrorists.
republican party is the party of fear and hate. thats it. those are the only 2 principles. every single thing that republican party promotes is defined by either of those persuasions.

fear and hate.
02-19-2017 , 05:51 PM
I wonder if the same election was held again next week how different the results would be... I don't think many people who supported trump would flip,but I think most of the stein voters would, and definitely a lot of sleep walking Dems who didn't vote, would
02-19-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
So he changed his position from reasonable to nuts because this is how you win elections and he won it. Iam not sure that Trump is the one we should laugh at for this.
it's funny how ~every republican presidential candidate starts out widely respected BECAUSE of how moderate they've been, but once they get the nomination they go hard right and play solely to the republican base
02-19-2017 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
what are you guys talking about when refering to chezlaw/chezland?
is that a site?
Politics v7.0/unchained, modded by chezlaw.
02-19-2017 , 05:57 PM
uhhh this seems pretty big if true

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...-russia-2017-2

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Report: Trump's lawyer hand-delivered Michael Flynn a secret plan to lift sanctions on Russia
02-19-2017 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
- Sam Harris
Interesting where you choose to stop quoting.

Here is the actual quote.


"Given a choice between Noam Chomsky and Ben Carson, in terms of the totality of their understanding of what’s happening now in the world, I’d vote for Ben Carson every time. Ben Carson is a dangerously deluded religious imbecile.…the fact that he is a candidate for president is a scandal…but at the very least he can be counted on to sort of get this one right. He understands that jihadists are the enemy."

While I don't agree with him, it is a lot different in context.


P.S how do you quote without attaching a name?
02-19-2017 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
re campfirewest and Orwell

And his feelings were pretty clear in Down and Out in Paris and London, published in 1933. It wasn't mostly political, but it was somewhat and he did humbly offer social prescriptions and his sympathies were quite clear.

What's interesting is that campfirewest isn't making this up on his own. The popular impression in the US is that Orwell was more or less a US style libertarian who was specifically attacking socialism in 1984. I just asked my daughter who is in 12th grade now and read it for school in 10th grade and she said that no one brought up fascism and everyone, the teacher included, just talked about how it was about socialism and how Orwell was afraid that it was a looming threat.
really? wtf.

my orwell history is that I read him about 20 years ago. read animal farm. didnt really understand it, but my mom explained a few things. then read 1984 like 5 yrs later when I was 17 and a lot smarter. that book still blows my mind. I saw stuff from the bush administration that applied. and no I constantly think about it.

about 3 yrs ago I read his book about the spanish civil war bc I was bored and randomly came across it. combine that book with hemingways fspanish book for whom the bell tolls for a pretty interesting perspective. anyway, that was a good book and lololol if you think he was libertarian after that one.

and just a few months ago I came across down and out at my moms house (english teacher) and thought it was just an amazing book.

some of the ideas he introduces in that book to help the lower class are still fought tooth and nail by the establishment. and they still make sense.

and his encounter with the guy in charge of the food who totally agrees that they should absolutely throw out the extra food and not use it to feed the starving ppl (even tho that dude was himself starving) is enough to lose faith in humanity and realize why ppl will totally kill their own self interests.
02-19-2017 , 06:04 PM
Where has Kellyanne been today. Is she still out there fighting or is she locked in a dungeon?
02-19-2017 , 06:05 PM
it really feels like Conway has been sweeped under the rug and "stealth fired"
02-19-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
republican party is the party of fear and hate. thats it. those are the only 2 principles. every single thing that republican party promotes is defined by either of those persuasions.

fear and hate.
It is the party of fear, hate, idiots and feelings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnhJWusyj4I
02-19-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
uhhh this seems pretty big if true

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...-russia-2017-2
Coincidentally, this is the same lawyer who had to show Trump his passport to prove he hadn't been to Prague.
02-19-2017 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
uhhh this seems pretty big if true

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...-russia-2017-2
That story seems pretty bigly. It is insane how many connections trump has to Russia. Even if we think Trump is so dumb he just thinks we can be allies in terror with Russia, he has surrounded himself with Russian sympathizers and conspirators. These people are absolutely working a Russian agenda that has nothing to do with terror.
02-19-2017 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
it really feels like Conway has been sweeped under the rug and "stealth fired"
Any idea what prompted her benching. If it was the whole "buy Ivanka's stuff" thing, that's essentially the opposite of how I would have expected Trump to act. However, if it is that, and this is part of her punishment that is so close to being appropriate (firing would be better) that my mind is blown.

However, the odds that Trump, et al are going to pick that issue to do the correctish thing on are pretty slim. So, it's probably something else. But what?
02-19-2017 , 06:20 PM
Victor, the "safe" or "no go" zones are right wing fantasies of places controlled by Muslims in Europe that police are either scared of or not allowed to enter. This is a made up lie that is propagated on the alt right sites. It's the halfway to "sharia law."
02-19-2017 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
From studies I read, most experts think there are around 100k radicalized Muslims in the world. That's like .000065 percent of the Muslim population. It's a lot more than the vast majority that are peaceful.
That would be .00625 %. But how did they define "radicalized"?
02-19-2017 , 06:28 PM
What is her official job anyway? Spokesperson for the white house?

      
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