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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-18-2017 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
Voted for Trump exactly because he is so inept. We currently live in a world that is unbelievably unfair, discriminatory, and corrupt

We really need to bring it all to the ground and start over, as it stands we're in too deep without a drastic change. Any of the other primary candidates would have put a band-aid on the bleeding artery of the current world yet through his own ineptitude, Trump was ironically the best option because he offers the quickest path to starting over which is inevitable

Maybe the next thousand years will really suck but as poker players we should be happy to understand that what happens today is a small price to pay for the long term, we shouldn't be playing just to win today's hand, maybe we were just unlucky to be alive in 2017 but can make a difference in the long-term

Maybe 99% of us won't live a full life thanks to Trump but as long as some of us survive, we should be absolutely thrilled if history books in 3017 thank of us for finally moving past this "my side vs your side" attitude and realizing we're all just human and should be treated with equality which neither party in 2017 truly wants
As trump erodes the EPA and pollution increases, the chances of human population existing for any amount of time to right your wrong goes way down.
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Originally Posted by JonnyA
A million times this. If you could organize a protest that got a bigger crowd that Trumps it would (1) split the media attention - which is Trump's goal for this rally and (2) likely set him off again about crowd sizes, etc. Make the narrative about the protest to Trump, not the Trump rally
And have the protest be focused on demanding an investigation into Russia.
02-18-2017 , 12:46 PM
Lol @ civil war. Yes there are loons who voted Trump but a large percentage are Olds. Is grandma gonna outfit her Rascal with bayonet? A lot of R's are trying to ignore the trump **** show all together. Calm down.
02-18-2017 , 12:57 PM
Trump was just +8 with olds. That narrative is overstated imo.
02-18-2017 , 01:05 PM
zikzak is right. amoeba is not. Protesting Trump and his rally reminds people how disliked Trump is. Some protesters will also get to speak to the media, where they can repeat liberal talking points and hopefully give some anecdotes about how Trump's policies have negatively affected them. It's worth it for the exposure.

And people like movements. Trump 2016 had a movement feel to it. HRC 2016 did not. We have heard over and over of people "voting for change." The protests give our side the feeling of a change movement.
02-18-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Trump was just +8 with olds. That narrative is overstated imo.
That's fair. The idea of civil war is still funny though. I would love to hear a theory on how that would actually go down. People who would fight against Orange far outnumber those who would fight with. If the military backs him against the resistance he would win of course.
02-18-2017 , 01:11 PM
Thought McCain had a pretty good speech today, one trumpers are definitely not gonna like.

Who wants to be in charge of our national security? If you volunteer you'll get it b/c it sure looks like nobody else wants it.
02-18-2017 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Lol @ civil war. Yes there are loons who voted Trump but a large percentage are Olds. Is grandma gonna outfit her Rascal with bayonet? A lot of R's are trying to ignore the trump **** show all together. Calm down.
yeah this. and it's just way too complex. who would be fighting who?
02-18-2017 , 01:14 PM
MAGA hats versus Pussy caps?
02-18-2017 , 01:15 PM


[from the twitter thread:]

2. Specifically, Trump's new trademark is actually prohibited by Chinese law. He got it anyway.

3. Chinese law prohibits the trademarking of names of political leaders

4. Here text of the actual code. They list a trademark of Putin as a prohibited trademark as he's a political leader http://thkpr.gs/e3abd18f58f2

5. We aren't just making this up. This is how top legal experts in Chinese IP law view the rules

6. As a legal matter in the U.S., this is very significant.

7. The Constitution prohibits the President from receiving presents from foreign governments

8. Trump getting this trademark outside of Chinese law eliminates the last possible defense Trump would have

9. Larry Tribe, one of the nation's top constitutional law scholars, told us that

10. This is a BFD. Violating the Emoluments Clause is an impeachable offense.
02-18-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
He really is disgusting. The lowest of the low. And thats truly saying something considering his contemporaries.
I remember hearing him talk down to everyone he didn't like as if they were a child. When idiots have power AND are smug it makes me more irate than just about anything else
02-18-2017 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
10. This is a BFD. Violating the Emoluments Clause is an impeachable offense.
He's already violated that a lot so what's one more.
02-18-2017 , 01:21 PM
Is it possible that Trump doesn't care if he's impeached and resigns if in the meantime he's increased the value of brand Trump via deals like these?
02-18-2017 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Is it possible that Trump doesn't care if he's impeached and resigns if in the meantime he's increased the value of brand Trump via deals like these?
No.
02-18-2017 , 01:30 PM
Damn.
02-18-2017 , 01:30 PM
He's not going to be impeached by the republicans. Not even sure if the dems will impeach if they get a majority in the 2018 elections.
02-18-2017 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
He's already violated that a lot so what's one more.
Something about this one seems more solid and clear (but IANAL), especially with the timing of his re-commitment to the one China policy.
02-18-2017 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Is it possible that Trump doesn't care if he's impeached and resigns if in the meantime he's increased the value of brand Trump via deals like these?
I think he might be delusional, and no one close to him has ever snapped him out of it. I'm pretty sure Bernie Madoff thought he was going to get away with his Ponzi scheme forever, and he's a lot smarter than Trump.

The other thought is: maybe Trump will get away with it.
02-18-2017 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by suitedjustice
The other thought is: maybe Trump will get away with it.
It seems like Trump will for sure get away with it, no? Like I'm trying to imagine how this impeachment would work. Even if they have what they say they have, it ain't Watergate. It's ****ing Chinese trademark law. How would Republicans sell their voter base on impeachment? It will seem like a huge technicality to them.
02-18-2017 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Something about this one seems more solid and clear (but IANAL), especially with the timing of his re-commitment to the one China policy.
LOLemoluments
02-18-2017 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by miliboo
eLOLuments
FYP.
02-18-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
It seems like Trump will for sure get away with it, no? Like I'm trying to imagine how this impeachment would work. Even if they have what they say they have, it ain't Watergate. It's ****ing Chinese trademark law. How would Republicans sell their voter base on impeachment? It will seem like a huge technicality to them.
By 'it' I mean everything, not just the Chinese business. He'll keep pushing it, more and more, as far as he can, moving from one thing to another. His strategy has always been to be the guy with the laser pointer in a world full of kittens.

If Ford had not pardoned Nixon, Old Dick might have been subject to prosecution after he resigned, especially with a vindictive Congress raring to have a go at him. Post-presidency problems might be the scenario for Trump.
02-18-2017 , 01:55 PM


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02-18-2017 , 02:15 PM



Then they came for me... and THAT'S when I cried foul!
02-18-2017 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
zikzak is right. amoeba is not. Protesting Trump and his rally reminds people how disliked Trump is. Some protesters will also get to speak to the media, where they can repeat liberal talking points and hopefully give some anecdotes about how Trump's policies have negatively affected them. It's worth it for the exposure.

And people like movements. Trump 2016 had a movement feel to it. HRC 2016 did not. We have heard over and over of people "voting for change." The protests give our side the feeling of a change movement.
Yup. It's much more likely trump loses a point or two in popularity a month then 20 points a day given his cult status. Keep grinding away
02-18-2017 , 02:21 PM

      
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