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02-17-2017 , 08:27 PM
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They are low income earners.
Completely contrary to polling on this issue. Exit polls showed HRC up bigly among the poorest. Every other income bracket had DJT and HRC roughly tied.
02-17-2017 , 08:27 PM
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02-17-2017 , 08:28 PM
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38%.

We can be dismissive.

It was posted earlier in this very thread. His supporters are old white male bible thumpers who didn't get an advanced education. They are low income earners therefore highly unlikely to be paying close attention to the Dow a meaningless stat even for people with billions in the market.
His supporters are middle class on and on top the GOP does have his back.
02-17-2017 , 08:31 PM
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38%.

We can be dismissive.

It was posted earlier in this very thread. His supporters are old white male bible thumpers who didn't get an advanced education. They are low income earners therefore highly unlikely to be paying close attention to the Dow a meaningless stat even for people with billions in the market.
He has many young white supporters as well.

They won't leave Trump until the conservative media turns on him. Either that or they are themselves affected by a bad economy. We all know how they value personal anecdotes.
02-17-2017 , 08:31 PM
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38%.

We can be dismissive.

It was posted earlier in this very thread. His supporters are old white male bible thumpers who didn't get an advanced education. They are low income earners therefore highly unlikely to be paying close attention to the Dow a meaningless stat even for people with billions in the market.

No, they really are not.

Liberals need to stop thinking it's only old racist people that were drawn to Trump.

It's a combination of a a lot things. But to pigeonhole Trump voters as LOL OLDZ is making a huge mistake.
02-17-2017 , 08:35 PM
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You guys forget about all the people who didn't vote or voted third party. That's way more than half of the adult population. Should we care what they support or believe?
02-17-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Trump recalling all the best people.
02-17-2017 , 08:39 PM
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young internet conspiracy theorist are up there too.

They are usually white and racist, for some odd reason.
02-17-2017 , 08:39 PM
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I think I saw that Trump was 69% with while males (exit poles or something like that).
02-17-2017 , 08:40 PM
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No, they really are not.

Liberals need to stop thinking it's only old racist people that were drawn to Trump.

It's a combination of a a lot things. But to pigeonhole Trump voters as LOL OLDZ is making a huge mistake.
Why assume everyone who believes something you don't are liberals? That kind of thinking is why it's impossible to have a rational conversation.
02-17-2017 , 08:41 PM
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38%.

We can be dismissive.

It was posted earlier in this very thread. His supporters are old white male bible thumpers who didn't get an advanced education. They are low income earners therefore highly unlikely to be paying close attention to the Dow a meaningless stat even for people with billions in the market.
No, we can't, because that 38% represents 70-90% of the Republican party, and we need Republicans to initiate impeachment proceedings.

We either need his approval below 25% (and maybe even in the 15% range) or we need smoking gun evidence of treason.

Also, his supporters include more women and secular folks than we'd all like to think. More high income people, as well.
02-17-2017 , 08:41 PM
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Let the record show that Trump voters do make more on a median &/or mean basis than people who voted for HRC nationally.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...class-support/
02-17-2017 , 08:42 PM
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Yeah I came across it from a retweet from someone who I think would know.
Does it matter whether Robert Reich or someone pretending to be Robert Reich made that story up?
02-17-2017 , 08:42 PM
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Well, you're completely wrong. McCain will say passive aggressive things about trump, while not actually naming him and not voting against him while trump calls him a coward on Twitter. It's pathetic.
did you watch the video? what more would you have him say?

mccain's still a republican, so he's going to vote along party lines. and despite the abuse i doubt he wants to be the first republican senator to start publicly calling out trump.
02-17-2017 , 08:43 PM
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"Influence" merits one eyebrow arched as high up your face as it can possibly go.
02-17-2017 , 08:44 PM
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Is this the guy who was super easy on trump a few weeks ago?

02-17-2017 , 08:44 PM
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02-17-2017 , 08:46 PM
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did you watch the video? what more would you have him say?

mccain's still a republican, so he's going to vote along party lines. and despite the abuse i doubt he wants to be the first republican senator to start publicly calling out trump.
So, McCain will weakly call out trump, then trump will call him out even stronger and McCain will vote for everything trump wants. How is this worthy of praise?
02-17-2017 , 08:49 PM
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Why assume everyone who believes something you don't are liberals? That kind of thinking is why it's impossible to have a rational conversation.
If anyone is making assumptions here, it's you. I'm as liberal as you can get.

My point is, the liberals/Democratic Party are making a grave mistake if they think the only reason Trump won is because racist old people voted for him. It's simply not true.
02-17-2017 , 08:50 PM
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His supporters are lower middle class racists. They have collectively $100 in the market.

Lol.
They also wouldn't care if he raised taxes on the rich. I was replying to a specific post and giving another scenario that would make some Republicans legislators jump ship.
02-17-2017 , 08:50 PM
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He has many young white supporters as well.

They won't leave Trump until the conservative media turns on him. Either that or they are themselves affected by a bad economy. We all know how they value personal anecdotes.
His young supporters may be the scariest of all
02-17-2017 , 08:51 PM
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If anyone is making assumptions here, it's you. I'm as liberal as you can get.

My point is, the liberals/Democratic Party are making a grave mistake if they think the only reason Trump won is because racist old people voted for him. It's simply not true.
Yeah! There were racist young people too.

Spoiler:

Being intentionally glib. Undoubtedly his voter base has many nonracists. There are a bunch of people who have no clue / aren't paying attention / are brainwashed, (nonracist) people who vote for whomever their (racist) elders tell them to vote for, single-issue voter businessmen who hate taxes to an unreasonable degree, et al.
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02-17-2017 , 08:52 PM
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53% of white women voted for Trump. Even though Dems got 2.9 million more votes, Republicans have somewhat broad appeal. Trump got a decent amount of Hispanic votes as well. It is indeed a big mistake to think only old whites (or low-income whites) voted Trump into office. It was a very broad coalition of whites, so to speak.
02-17-2017 , 08:53 PM
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ive been out of the news today slammed at work, this is fairly big news isnt it?
02-17-2017 , 08:56 PM
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A reversal by the stock market and Netanyahu would also do it.
WTF myne bruder?
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