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02-17-2017 , 12:04 PM
Nobody likes a sore loser lol Inso your entire ****ing life is being a sore loser because your parents signed you up for the side that already lost the culture war
02-17-2017 , 12:06 PM
So what kind of sleazy legislation is the GOP pushing through as we are watching the moron?

Are black people still allowed to vote?
02-17-2017 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Your mask is slipping, and the troll is showing.
Lord is obviously an alt-righter or alt-right adjacent. He throws around the "cuck" insult like a teenager who just learned a dirty word. He complains about "SJWs" without being able to define those people to any degree of specificity. He denies that racism exists and says everything is "culture" and economics. He loves Trump and thinks the media is unfair to him. I don't know why these people are always so cowardly about expressing their true beliefs.
02-17-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dopebeats
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but atleast a few people are going to jail in this administration. I know (hope) you are trolling. Here is a GOP-Friendly outlet's take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TfqTHlMszA

LOL
shep smith is like the resident sane person at fox, isnt he? he's not representative for how right-leaning media reported it in general.
02-17-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Nobody likes a sore loser lol Inso your entire ****ing life is being a sore loser because your parents signed you up for the side that already lost the culture war
The most ridiculous part is that I'm sure he thinks we are in a liberal bubble and he is the one with the "real people." Anyone who watched that news conference and thought it was great lives in a ****ing bubble of an alternate reality. That is the real bubble.
02-17-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
The contrast between this thread, the internets in general, and the more GOP-friendly media I've been exposed to in the last 18 hours has been pretty shocking. I was listening to a call-in segment on the way in this morning, and people were SUPER excited about the fact that Trump gave zero ****s during the presser. They ate it up.

I'm going to have to watch this press conference at some point today. Given that most of the jokes and memes are about Trump citing incorrect electoral college statistics, I'm going in thinking it's you guys that are blowing this way out of proportion.

I'll be most interested to see the first 10-15 mins, because that's what the average person is going to sit through before getting bored and going back to Facebook. If that's decent, you guys are cooked. Nobody likes a sore loser.

I think you're all in for a very long 4 years.

I'll feed the troll.


we are talking about it because Trump can't string sentences together to construct coherent thoughts.

All he wants to talk about is winning the EC and how Hillary and Obama are terrible.



On a side note, his logic of

Real leaks, and then followed by fake news

any non-moronic person can deduce that doesnt make sense.



so explain that logic, how does real information being leaked become fake news because the media reports on it?
02-17-2017 , 12:10 PM
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He throws around the "cuck" insult like a teenager who just learned a dirty word. He complains about "SJWs" without being able to define those people to any degree of specificity. He denies that racism exists and says everything is "culture" and economics.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
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12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters. This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons—doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.

[...]
14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in 1984, as the official language of Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning. But we must be ready to identify other kinds of Newspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show.
02-17-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Tom, the more artfully written and disturbingly prophetic Lincoln quote to contrast there is this imo:
to be fair, they didn't have nukes back in Honest Abe's day
02-17-2017 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Both WH and DHS saying report is false.
Well technically no. The WH said it was false and said the DHS said it was false. The DHS said it was an early draft memo and isn't being currently considered. The AP reports that it was being discussed by several other agencies. Sounds like it was being kicked around, but currently isn't in the planning stage.

Also the AP said they sent multiple requests to the WH about the article and the WH never got back to them but then after AP published then they said the memo was completely fake. Either the WH wanted the memo published so that it could deny or they're just overwhelmed right now and couldn't get back to the AP or simply have a policy of not responding to reporters.
02-17-2017 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by daca
shep smith is like the resident sane person at fox, isnt he? he's not representative for how right-leaning media reported it in general.
Agree. He seems pretty liberal but doesn't really display his political beliefs directly. He seemed to be standing up for his fellow journalists and won't become a voice of the resistance at Fox. It isn't his style.
02-17-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Lord is obviously an alt-righter or alt-right adjacent. He throws around the "cuck" insult like a teenager who just learned a dirty word. He complains about "SJWs" without being able to define those people to any degree of specificity. He denies that racism exists and says everything is "culture" and economics. He loves Trump and thinks the media is unfair to him. I don't know why these people are always so cowardly about expressing their true beliefs.
Yeah, but he sent me some MAD PMs about people suggesting he wasn't actually liberal.
02-17-2017 , 12:21 PM
02-17-2017 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Lord is obviously an alt-righter or alt-right adjacent. He throws around the "cuck" insult like a teenager who just learned a dirty word. He complains about "SJWs" without being able to define those people to any degree of specificity. He denies that racism exists and says everything is "culture" and economics. He loves Trump and thinks the media is unfair to him. I don't know why these people are always so cowardly about expressing their true beliefs.
Also whining about SWJs and safe spaces while whining even more whenever Trump tells an obvious lie and the media is mean to him by daring to question the lie. Troll is actually a very kind characterization.
02-17-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Pretty much, now back to the real questions. What was Trump and his administrations links to Russia?
02-17-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Yeah I'm pretty sure that fake @GenMikeFlynn account came either directly from them or one of their surrogates like O'Keefe. After news orgs like NPR started getting fooled by it, whoever was running that account pinned a tweet about how the MSM was spreading "fake news."

The country is being run by Internet trolls.
02-17-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Yeah, but he sent me some MAD PMs about people suggesting he wasn't actually liberal.
Rough order of magnitude guess: how many times a day does he report posts?
02-17-2017 , 12:29 PM
For ****'s sake stop following "funny liberal" Twitter accounts.

NO!

The WH didn't leak fake news, then deny it, THE MEMO WAS REAL.



They just denied it because they lie about everything, and what they don't lie about they get wrong honestly.
02-17-2017 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Rough order of magnitude guess: how many times a day does he report posts?
I still don't out post reporters unless they're getting banned for being obnoxious about it, because I don't want to discourage the practice.
02-17-2017 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
We are talking about the whole population (though I am unclear if people like us, some of which are not 35 years old, would be in that conversation or just olds as people over 35 actually skew more conservative than the voting public).



True, but some would just ask their friends and other people they trust who would be equally uneducated.



yea. This is what prompted that comment last night and is an insight into how they think. These people literally cannot talk about Trump. All they can do is talk about Hillary. This is a guy who liked Obama, said he was going to miss Obama and Biden as recently as Inauguration Day, and was the biggest Bernie supporter I interacted with regularly irl yet he is still this far gone.

He used "Hillary," "she," and "her" 16 times below and "Trump," "he," and "him" only 5 times.



am I the only one that interacts with this type of person regularly?
Jfc my eyes
02-17-2017 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
For ****'s sake stop following "funny liberal" Twitter accounts.

NO!

The WH didn't leak fake news, then deny it, THE MEMO WAS REAL.



They just denied it because they lie about everything, and what they don't lie about they get wrong honestly.
I'm thinking this is a case of people just flat-out not knowing wtf is going on. Mass deportation was on of his campaign pledges, so there's surely guys floating memos about how it might be done.
02-17-2017 , 12:41 PM
Trump's antics are predictably spurring people in Europe to consider nuclear proliferation. Needless to say, this is extremely terrible!
02-17-2017 , 12:42 PM
Seriously you gotta know your enemy and every centrist lib is just as invested in the idea of Trump as master troll and media manipulator because that excuses Queen Hillary's decision not to go to ****ing Wisconsin.

But you'll get twisted in knots playing that game, where every leak is a false flag to make you angry and then every denial is just another so... what? Don't report leaks? Don't report denials? Don't go to protests?


I mean, if we're playing the 12th dimensional chess game who is more likely to be a stealth Trump supporter:

People leaking horrifying memos and advocating going to protest his rally in Florida

OR

People knowingly saying that any leak of horrifying Trump policy is an insincere attempt to embarrass the press and NOT to protest in Florida because, uh, I kinda lost the train of thought from that lady.
02-17-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Jfc my eyes
My tactic with that guy would be: "No one is 100% honest, but Hillary is a reasonably honest person and much more honest than Trump. Deal with their argument directly instead of talking past each other.

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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Seriously you gotta know your enemy and every centrist lib is just as invested in the idea of Trump as master troll and media manipulator because that excuses Queen Hillary's decision not to go to ****ing Wisconsin.
As a centrist lib, while I do like excusing Hillary, I am not invested in calling Trump a master manipulator.
02-17-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I'm thinking this is a case of people just flat-out not knowing wtf is going on. Mass deportation was on of his campaign pledges, so there's surely guys floating memos about how it might be done.


So yea, the same thing actually happened when Obama was President. He actually was pretty tough on immigration in public and actually put some tougher laws in play, but leaked memos kept mentioning the early form of the DACA program and other things, and guess what Obama rolled them out eventually.
02-17-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Lord is obviously an alt-righter or alt-right adjacent. He throws around the "cuck" insult like a teenager who just learned a dirty word. He complains about "SJWs" without being able to define those people to any degree of specificity. He denies that racism exists and says everything is "culture" and economics. He loves Trump and thinks the media is unfair to him. I don't know why these people are always so cowardly about expressing their true beliefs.
A lot of them are weak-minded, weak-willed and scared ****less over many many things. Just like Trump. That fear is leveraged via propaganda (including a lot of it in the main stream media) to influence their thinking and decisions (spending, voting, etc).

Fear farming for fun and profit.

      
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