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01-25-2017 , 10:03 AM

#1051

Huehuecoyotl

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Trump putting in the populists as an affront to the Republican big wigs

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Speaking to the Heritage Foundation about his 2011 book, "Job Creation: How It Really Works and Why Government Doesn't Understand It," Puzder suggested the Democratic Party was benefitting from more than half the country receiving benefits.

"Last year, 52% of the people in the country got more from government than they gave to government," Puzder said. "We do have a segment of the population that's going to continue to vote benefits to themselves. You have to make a decision for yourself which party actually supports that and would therefore want to continue to have those people vote for them by taking from the rich and giving to the poor, as they like to say, which tilts the electoral balance in favor of those who get the benefits. If they are more than 50% of the population, we've got a problem."

It's a nice reminder that Romney's "48% are leeches on job creators" wasn't because Romney was particularly heartless, it's an Republican talking point. Should probably roll labor secretary into commerce secretary though.

01-25-2017 , 10:04 AM

#1052

Victor

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

"strengthen up voting procedures"

Well, hope racial minorities enjoyed their enfranchisement.

not just minorities. all dems are gonna be suppressed.

01-25-2017 , 10:12 AM

#1053

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...27824903090176

So Jake Tapper pretty much just trolled him into this I guess. Most easily exploitable president ever.

01-25-2017 , 10:13 AM

#1054

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...27824903090176

Imagine if he managed to find a guy who was registered in a state he didn't even live in, and just what Trump would have done to that guy...

01-25-2017 , 10:14 AM

#1055

DVaut1

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not just minorities. all dems are gonna be suppressed.

Maybe, but the suppressors are lazy, and their base mostly just wants racial minorities suppressed, and since ~40% of the Democratic Party are now racial minorities and they're poorer and less powerful than whites who trend wealthier, they're going to triangulate / compromise and do the easier thing and just put the screws to blacks and Hispanics. If they jerk around poor whites and up, that will get them into the news and produce anxiety/sympathy among white people and threaten their political consensus.

All of the "strengthening" policies will not be de jure partisan, just de facto partisan and the targets are going to be brown people because if they went after whites they'd face genuine, holistic backlash.

01-25-2017 , 10:17 AM

#1056

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01-25-2017 , 10:19 AM

#1057

snafoo

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So much for free elections.

01-25-2017 , 10:23 AM

#1058

DVaut1

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Originally Posted by prana

You know you could have maybe predicted resistance to Trump from within the federal government but the brave Park Rangers of the National Park Service forming the Revolutionary Guard for the anti-Trump order, just didn't see that coming.

01-25-2017 , 10:32 AM

#1059

Riverman

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

I'm too lazy, can someone go back to the halcyon days of November 2016 and scour the pundit archives or maybe 2p2 politics archives for all the memes that Trump was just an insane rambling bozo on Twitter during the campaign because that's how you win, and that the gravity and seriousness of the office of President would turn him into a credible steward of the country and all that, once he was inaugurated?

Also the parade of people insisting that the GOP wouldn't eventually fall in line.

01-25-2017 , 10:33 AM

#1060

King_of_NYC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

So Jake Tapper pretty much just trolled him into this I guess. Most easily exploitable president ever.

More like Mexico. See post #1036

01-25-2017 , 10:40 AM

#1061

prana

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All the intelligence agencies are telling you to about Russia. No investigation needed.

No evidence from anyone other than his imagination that millions voted illegally. Investigation needed.

01-25-2017 , 10:47 AM

#1062

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LIVE: President Donald Trump Protesters Strapped On A Crane In DC

oh and, free melonia!

01-25-2017 , 10:47 AM

#1063

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The Trump administration is preparing a sweeping executive order that would clear the way for the Central Intelligence Agency to reopen overseas “black site” prisons, like those where it detained and tortured terrorism suspects before former President Obama shut them down.

President Trump’s three-page draft order, titled “Detention and Interrogation of Enemy Combatants,” and obtained by The New York Times would also undo many of the other restrictions on handling detainees that Mr. Obama put in place in response to policies of the Bush administration.

If Mr. Trump signs the draft order, he would also revoke Mr. Obama’s directive to give the International Committee of the Red Cross access to all wartime detainees in American custody – another step toward reopening secret prisons outside of the normal wartime rules established by the Geneva Conventions.

Trump will be much more peaceful than Clinton

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/u...sons.html?_r=0

01-25-2017 , 10:59 AM

#1064

DTD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...27824903090176

How do these things work in the US - who appoints the group or person responsible for the investigation and is the final report public?

01-25-2017 , 11:00 AM

#1065

prana

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Now most likely Trump has someone draft up some papers no body will ever see that say he was right.

01-25-2017 , 11:03 AM

#1066

Victor

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

that makes sense. but there is nothing about trump and his cronies that indicates restraint. they are gonna take it all.

01-25-2017 , 11:08 AM

#1067

ScreaminAsian

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days after the election: sue to stop recounts in swing states

days after inauguration: call for major investigation into rampant voter fraud

01-25-2017 , 11:09 AM

#1068

CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prana

This is awesome. Hope all these agencies have employees willing to do this.

01-25-2017 , 11:09 AM

#1069

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So Trump is officially far worse than the worst case scenarios at this point, right?

01-25-2017 , 11:13 AM

#1070

microbet

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How long until Trump's CIA black sites are torturing CNN reporters?

01-25-2017 , 11:17 AM

#1071

BABARtheELEPHANT

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

So Trump is officially far worse than the worst case scenarios at this point, right?

I dunno about that. 6 month ago, we thought the idea of erecting a wall between the US and Mexico was rock bottom. Now it sounds like one of the most progressive point of Trump's agenda. "Hey, he could have given licence to kill to shoot the BROWNS on sight".

01-25-2017 , 11:22 AM

#1072

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

I'll keep saying it: minor obstruction and passive-aggressive disobedience from career civil servants is going to go a long way toward saving this country.

01-25-2017 , 11:22 AM

#1073

DBLK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by washington post

On Sunday and Monday, we surveyed 1,388 American adults. We showed half of them a crowd picture from each inauguration and asked which was from Trump’s inauguration and which was from Obama’s.

For the other half, we asked a very simple question with one clearly correct answer: “Which photo has more people?” Some of these people probably understood that the image on the left was from Trump’s inauguration and that the image on the right was from Obama’s, but admitting that there were more people in the image on the right would mean they were acknowledging that more people attended Obama’s inauguration.

Would some people be willing to make a clearly false statement when looking directly at photographic evidence — simply to support the Trump administration’s claims?

Yes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...what-they-said

01-25-2017 , 11:23 AM

#1074

iron81

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DTD

How do these things work in the US - who appoints the group or person responsible for the investigation and is the final report public?

The President appoints the Attorney general, who appoints the DoJ staffers who conduct the investigation. They can results if they want or if they are leaked.