I'm in central FL as well and thought about it, but I'm pretty far from Melbourne and I feel like I'd get 1/4 of the way over there and realize I'm about to waste my Saturday on Trump and then turn around and drive back.

I'm going to need to see more information about this.

Some additional factors that come to mind: Germans, even stupid ones, value intellect and "looking stupid in front of a camera" will hurt a German politician more than a US one. Similarly, we value titles, experience and licensed, professional education (for example a brick-layer or hair-stylist has a three-year apprenticeship, including school), so a "political outsider" doesn't carry the same excitement around here. I think the biggest part is that Germans are relatively rational and "it's known" that the AFD doesn't really have a chance this time by anyone not delusional: Our multi-party-system would prevent them from governing even if they somehow became the biggest party. So why risk social ridicule to fight for a lost cause, even if you're leaning farther right than Merkel...

Fortunately the "Alternative for Germany" with all its Nazi baggage and obvious incompetence isn't really an alternative for most Germans, yet. I'd be more afraid of the CDU/CSU moving further to the right but luckily Merkel doesn't seem to be evil.

Your mask is slipping, and the troll is showing.

That looks like disinfo honestly. That was from a memo that was leaked to the AP. I think Bannon is checking the news cycle.

Iam now watching his famous press conference, the guy is amazing.

"Lets take a look at what we did so far, we WILL have..."

I had several conversations like this yesterday.

Dude made some wild claim, I said

thats not true, please provide an article as a source

he sent me an article from The Daily Mail

New communications director incoming.. please don't replace spicer, please don't replace spicer

I have no problem believing Stephen Miller/Bannon are generating documents on what it would actually take to fullfill their treasured dreams.

Wow great, the worst most horrifying thing yet.

nope

Then you should also have no problem believing that a guy that built himself off of spreading disinformation, is now in the white house spreading disinformation.

How does that disprove my theory that this is disinformation?

They aren't considering it, they're just drafting memos about the possibility of doing it.

The contrast between this thread, the internets in general, and the more GOP-friendly media I've been exposed to in the last 18 hours has been pretty shocking. I was listening to a call-in segment on the way in this morning, and people were SUPER excited about the fact that Trump gave zero ****s during the presser. They ate it up.

I'm going to have to watch this press conference at some point today. Given that most of the jokes and memes are about Trump citing incorrect electoral college statistics, I'm going in thinking it's you guys that are blowing this way out of proportion.

I'll be most interested to see the first 10-15 mins, because that's what the average person is going to sit through before getting bored and going back to Facebook. If that's decent, you guys are cooked. Nobody likes a sore loser.

I think you're all in for a very long 4 years.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but atleast a few people are going to jail in this administration. I know (hope) you are trolling. Here is a GOP-Friendly outlet's take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TfqTHlMszA

LOL

when I ask for sources I get told "i don't feel like looking them up, use google" and google obviously provides me with nothing.

Watch right wing media (more right than Fox News apparently, which lambasted his performance), get reassured that Dear Leader is the greatest, gloat on 2p2. I had you pinned for better than that.

I'll believe it when I see it on the 100k national guard to roundup for deportation.

Business community will be on his ass about that. And not just silicon valley dems, the type of businesses that own the GOP.

Even with the Bush-era power grab over Guard control, that still seems like an unconstitutional call up. Pretty sure that results in massive state revolt and a constitutional crisis.

Ok, but I'm also going to make sure I know where my birth certificate is.

The inmates have taken over the GOP, not monied interests.

Both WH and DHS saying report is false.

Yes but this also gives us a chance to exert political pressure on the GOP from the business community. Hit them from all sides and see if they still have the political will to get this **** done.

Tom, the more artfully written and disturbingly prophetic Lincoln quote to contrast there is this imo: