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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
All fighting dirty will do is entrench both sides even more and piss off people in the middle that really dont pay attention to politics. The GOP is the minority party in the US but they come out in droves to vote. The way to combat this is to get more people to vote. And playing dirty is not the way to do it. The only reason Dems lose elections is because people dont vote. Every single person should be getting 5 people to sign up and vote. Especially younger people.
Not very often that Matty Lice is right, but he's right. Erosion of democracy can't be fixed through further erosion of democracy. Doesn't mean nothing can be done to push back against Republicans, but you should ask yourself, are you advocating for a policy that will increase democracy or just shift more power to Democrats? If it's the former, good. If it's the latter, no. That's not just a philosophical distinction that we can suspend thanks to the current reality either. Disenfranchising voters is a terrible policy no matter who's being disenfranchised.
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
If you took this one step further and asked "why don't people vote" you'd understand that "playing dirty" is the only ****ing way they ever will. Act like you give a ****.
If the answer you're looking for is voter disenfranchisement, how exactly does "playing dirty" help? Like maybe think two steps ahead and tell us how disenfranchising Republicans or whatever dirty policy you're pushing for leads to everyone agreeing to implement automatic registration and increased access to polling stations or whatever, cause that part is kind of important.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
This isn't really true, is it? They won the popular vote in both presidential and Senate elections but didn't win. That is the point.
And people in the middle need to be more pissed off, IMO.
That's not due to Republican shenanigans though, those advantages are embedded in the constitution and always have been. Not much anyone can do to fix that. The electoral college compact thing is a long shot path to patching the presidential advantage. Fixing the balance in the Senate would be even more difficult. It can't really be an issue to be preoccupied with if you're looking for realistic paths to repairing our government anytime soon.