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02-16-2017 , 10:55 PM

#10526

ChrisV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Quote:

Do you believe that contrary to what the media says, raising taxes does not create jobs?

This is a yes or no question that I would literally need to sit down and diagram before trying to answer.

Also... what?

Wait... is the premise of this question that the media frequently says that raising taxes creates jobs? I'm so confused.

02-16-2017 , 10:55 PM

#10527

Kirbynator

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one of the polls has him at 39% already ... 35 is pretty damn close

02-16-2017 , 10:56 PM

#10528

PocketChads

guaranteed 42-10 finish

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,476

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlk9s

My wife didn't hear about any of the press conference today. I just pulled it up on the YouTubes and am Chromecasting it to the TV so she can view it on the big screen, as it should be.

She's shooting me looks every few seconds. This is fun.

Y'all are going to have sex because she's going to be so happy she didn't get conned into marrying someone like Trump

02-16-2017 , 10:56 PM

#10529

PocketChads

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Wait... is the premise of this question that the media frequently says that raising taxes creates jobs? I'm so confused.

Yep.

I believe they believe the media says that, too.

02-16-2017 , 10:57 PM

#10530

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,097

https://gop.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/

Try this link, the earlier one now goes to one from the campaign. This one is from today

02-16-2017 , 10:59 PM

#10531

longmissedblind

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,736

Trumping Back Sunday

02-16-2017 , 11:00 PM

#10532

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ymmv

lol did this really go out today? they are obviously campaign questions... right?

Here's a link to the survey from USA Today in August:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...rvey/88758820/

02-16-2017 , 11:01 PM

#10533

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

https://gop.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/

Try this link, the earlier one now goes to one from the campaign. This one is from today

Cool, thanks. This is the one we should be filling out.

02-16-2017 , 11:04 PM

#10534

dlk9s

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PocketChads

Y'all are going to have sex because she's going to be so happy she didn't get conned into marrying someone like Trump

First time anyone has called Trump a turn-on.

02-16-2017 , 11:11 PM

#10535

AllTheCheese

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Not sure why this survey is such a big deal. Get this kind of **** in my email from the Dems multiple times per day. Here's a petition no one cares about: sign it and we'll ask you for money. Having Trumpkins take this survey lets them know that Trump needs a lot of money to take on the crooked media.

02-16-2017 , 11:12 PM

#10536

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

I care about it because we can monkeywrench it.

02-16-2017 , 11:16 PM

#10537

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

I care about it because we can monkeywrench it.

Okay, have fun. But it seems doubtful that anyone will actually look at the results, aside from how much $$$ was raised.

02-16-2017 , 11:17 PM

#10538

prana

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"98% of people in our survey think CNN is fake news too!"

02-16-2017 , 11:22 PM

#10539

Kirbynator

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White supremacist allegedly planned shooting 'in spirit of Dylann Roof'
Benjamin McDowell, a man from South Carolina with prior convictions, bought gun from undercover FBI agent, inspired by deadly attack in Charleston

wait hes white? cant be used in politics nvm

02-16-2017 , 11:26 PM

#10540

markksman

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So good CBP just yanking global entry cards from Muslim Americans.

https://mic.com/articles/168606/us-c...say#.qTc3XwqK7

02-16-2017 , 11:36 PM

#10541

NhlNut

KANGZ

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 18,238

Having not watched the news conference live, for the longest time today I couldn't understand what possible beef could arise between Trump and the Canadian Broadcasting Company.

02-16-2017 , 11:37 PM

#10542

Paul McSwizzle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

There's a political angle to this. As you know, the only way Trump gets impeached is if Republicans decide to do it. Conceivably it's much more difficult for them to pull the trigger if it's Democrats explicitly sourcing the damning information on Trump. It makes is more partisan, whereas if it's anonymous leaks showing up in the newspaper, it's Trump vs the nonpartisan (or even R-leaning) intelligence community. Not sure that those kind of calculations are really driving anyone, and it doesn't make the harms to democracy any milder, but it's something to think about.

yeah this is my take. plus there is the element where he's clearly imploding on his own so who knows what kind of cards all the normal politicians are holding while they wait for the implosion to play out.

02-16-2017 , 11:43 PM

#10543

synth_floyd

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How long until the chaos that's going on inside Trump's head and in the white house spills out into the real world? The Trump regime just seems like a ticking time bomb.

02-16-2017 , 11:45 PM

#10544

CalledDownLight

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 88,413

If I hear "Hillary lied too" one more time from someone in real life I might just snap for the first time in my adult life.

02-16-2017 , 11:46 PM

#10545

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

one of the polls has him at 39% already ... 35 is pretty damn close

I mentioned this the other day but the silence from the right on Facebook is deafening. Either they are flat out shook or ignoring what's going on. If they are shook, it won't take long for them to "change teams." Remember, people generally want to be on the winning team first and foremost.

Wait til unemployment numbers start rising, the Dow starts falling, and people lose their ACA; especially since 1/3 had no idea it was Obamacare.

02-16-2017 , 11:47 PM

#10546

ymmv

adept

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 726

man watching press conf right now - despite the insane **** coming out of his mouth, every reporter so far has demurred and sat right back down when POTUS starts speaking. like i wish they wouldn't but just so automatic because he's POTUS. It's good in the sense that we should respect the position but like you gotta stay standing and call him out.

ETA "im not ranting and raving" the new "nah u mad"

02-16-2017 , 11:49 PM

#10547

PocketChads

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

So good CBP just yanking global entry cards from Muslim Americans.

https://mic.com/articles/168606/us-c...say#.qTc3XwqK7

Mother ****ers discriminating against natural-born citizens either based on guesses due to their name, or because they have lists of who practices what religion.

People have jobs that rely on being able to get a green light in global pass. Even things like trucking.

02-16-2017 , 11:50 PM

#10548

Paul McSwizzle

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

I hate to think Obama's biopic will be titled "The Last President".

Had this thought the other day.

02-16-2017 , 11:52 PM

#10549

PocketChads

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

I know this but it's still hard not to be scared by my Trump stan extended family just dropping off the map on Facebook. Some of them even announcing it with **** like "I'm tired of this political he said she said, it's not healthy"

I see it as burying their head in the sand right when they need to be tuning in. Because I don't see them losing support or faith at all. And God forbid they're still this uninformed when a terrorist hits or when a protest turns deadly

02-16-2017 , 11:57 PM

#10550

Paul McSwizzle

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwn_Master

Here is the thing, treason is essentially a crime determined by the public. There is little precedent for it because most administrations don't even come ****ing close to the line. Trump today admitted that Flynn discussed sanctions with Russia. He also didn't deny that his team was in constant contact with Russia throughout the campaign, pretty much an admission from a guy who lies about everything. We also know that Russia illegally hacked Democrats and leaked it in a way to benefit Trump, with Trump's explicit public endorsement.

All the dots are there for treason, its just that prosecuting treason is a political process. Its almost so by definition, after all who is going to determine who are our "enemies"? The IC community is giving us, the public, the information to decide whether we will prosecute this case of treason. Trump is banking on his intuition, which is almost certainly correct, that vast majority of Rs are fine with him doing whatever it took to win and will excuse anything short documented suitcases of cash exchanging hands.

Note that Russia made considerable expenditures supporting his campaign and that Trump is taking the opportunity of Presidency to enrich himself in plain sight. That is all okay though. Again, it will take suitcases of cash for Rs to bedgrudingly say "you got us this time." Anything short of that is "don't hate the playa, hate the game."

This is a good post. The country is more divided at a fundamental level than DVaut is acknowledging. Republicans view Putin more favorably than they do Obama - I'd imagine they really don't care whether Russia was involved if that's what it took to make Trump the president.

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