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01-24-2017 , 11:42 PM

#976

King_of_NYC

betting he never calls me again

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.eee2b3008348

This was posted earlier but I just finished reading it and thought it was worth putting up again. It's about the first couple of days.

It's stomach churning to see him behind the desk in the oval office

From the article:

Quote:

Two people close to the transition also said a number of Trump’s most loyal campaign aides have been alarmed by Kushner’s efforts to elbow aside anyone he perceives as a possible threat to his role as Trump’s chief consigliere. At one point during the transition, Kushner had argued internally against giving Conway a White House role, these two people said.

Because Conway operates outside of the official communications department, some aides grumble that she can go rogue when she pleases, offering her own message and promoting herself as much as the president. One suggested that Conway’s office on the second floor of the West Wing, as opposed to one closer to the Oval Office, was a sign of her diminished standing. Though Conway took over the workspace previously occupied by Valerie Jarrett, who had been*Obama’s closest adviser, the confidant dismissively predicted that Trump would rarely climb a flight of stairs.

01-24-2017 , 11:45 PM

#977

RV Life

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70 year old fatty won't walk up stairs? How is this news? I'm more surprised there's not an elevator.

01-24-2017 , 11:46 PM

#978

Jiggymike

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People like Trump legit think that Chicago is some big war zone with bullets flying all around you as you try to get from your call to Lou Malnati's.

01-25-2017 , 12:01 AM

#979

PairTheBoard

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If there were 3-5 million fraudulent votes, maybe the election should be declared null and void. We can't know if fraudulent votes didn't put Trump over the top.

PairTheBoard

01-25-2017 , 12:02 AM

#980

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01-25-2017 , 12:16 AM

#981

d10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Who is saying Trump is being cruel by turning around and saying something? She's not smiling, he turns around, she fake smiles, he turns back around, she stops smiling. What am I missing?

You're missing that the GIF does not show the bolded. It starts with her smiling and holding that awkward smile while Trump says something to her, then turns dark as soon as he turns away. It's edited to appear as if she was in a happy mood until Trump turned and said whatever he said.

In reality, some dude who was about to pray made a cheesy joke about the rain being a blessing from God, Trump turned to his family probably to add something even cheesier like "It's true, God thinks I'm the best", everyone awkwardly laughs, then turns serious as the prayer guy gets serious again. If you want to show examples of how Melania's body language shows she hates Trump, there are plenty of real videos to choose from, and you don't even really need to do that as approximately zero people in the world believe their marriage is about love. This video in context is nothing though, and spreading it around as if it's something just gives ammo to those who would say the left wants to pick on Trump for no reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

OMG I couldn't have imagined that anyone would have thought that.

No one posting it thinks that's what happened.

LOL.

OMG, you're wrong: http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/23/mel...-inauguration/

Quote:

A video clip purportedly showing Melania Trump forcing a smile as she talked to Donald Trump during his inauguration ceremony, only to revert to a frown after he turned around, was widely circulated on social media after that event. The video clip was typically accompanied by a variety of messages claiming that Donald Trump had said something mean to her or pleas urging the First Lady to "run" from her husband. For instance, on 23 January 2017, the Facebook page "Blast Avenue" shared the video with the message: "Omg what did he say to her???? RUN MELANIA!!!!":

LOL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I don't particularly care what Melania thinks of Trump. She wasn't happy there, but the point was lol at d10's fantasy. No one thought Trump actually said something terrible to her right there.

Please cite whatever post led you to believe I have some kind of fantasy about this. Was it when I said "I don't think anything, that's the narrative that's been attached to that GIF clip"? Or "You're probably right that she hates him, I don't know or care either way"? Try actually reading my posts next time and make an attempt to understand them, or if that's too much for you kindly STFU because both your own interpretations of this GIF and your interpretation of my interpretation of this GIF are embarrassingly wrong.

01-25-2017 , 12:23 AM

#982

Vagine

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Bannon is feeding it to him like Rasputin. Trump is so stupid he actually believes it.

I disagree with this statement.
Trump is not stupid enough to believe anything. Trump is a narcissistic psychopath who only believes in anything that will stroke his ego.

01-25-2017 , 12:25 AM

#983

fatkid

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Remember last week when Republicans hated executive orders? Fun times.

01-25-2017 , 12:30 AM

#984

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

The funniest part about all this is I can see CNN going back to the days of the First Iraq War where they were the **** as far as reporting goes.

As I recall, and I think I do pretty well, CNN was **** during the first Iraq war. They flipped a switch from reporting to spokespeople for the gov the second the war started.

01-25-2017 , 12:31 AM

#985

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Originally Posted by RV Life

Step 1. Hiring Freeze.
Step 2. Build That Wall!

Sounds about right.

He should have the climate scientists build the wall.

01-25-2017 , 12:34 AM

#986

OmgGlutten!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HastenDan

Surprising tweet from Elon Musk.

Musk was at the first tech meeting with Trump and then back again for the meeting with business leaders. Probably just kissing Trumps ass to get $$ out of him for space exploration/whatever.

In Elon we trust.

Last edited by OmgGlutten!; 01-25-2017 at 12:59 AM.

01-25-2017 , 12:35 AM

#987

Shifty86

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Microbet on obvious tilt due to Musk's tweet.

01-25-2017 , 12:42 AM

#988

Max Cut

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tis a bit of a roller coaster, isn't it?

01-25-2017 , 12:42 AM

#989

Klingbard

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

Remember last week when Republicans hated executive orders? Fun times.

I know this is Rasmussen, but this looks right:

Also, Rasmussen puts Trump's approval rating at 57%. Now that is a number only a narcissist could believe.

01-25-2017 , 12:43 AM

#990

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Originally Posted by prana

Protests will go on pretty much indefinitely now?

Hopefully, but there's not much on the schedule so far.

01-25-2017 , 12:49 AM

#991

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Uncharted waters. Good thing we can count on the GOP congress to put the country ahead of partisan politics!

01-25-2017 , 12:50 AM

#992

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d10

He's saying something to her? How do you know? You can't see or hear him talking. Furthermore, Ivanka's body language changes too.

If he's an authoritarian figure in public life, you can be certain he is in his private life as well. It's clear that Melania defers to Trump in public. It's not just that video, there are plenty of other examples.

01-25-2017 , 12:52 AM

#993

Louis Cyphre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

This is kaka.

Sanders' supporters promoted the notion Hillary Clinton couldn't be trusted. Guess what? People who are liberal (some I know) didn't vote for Clinton because of that crap. If you couldn't trust Clinton and voted against her you are responsible for Trump. If you wanted the DNC to be reformed besides DWS getting booted in the moment. It should have waited. Congrats, you did Limbaugh's job for him.

You can read all the Chomsky or Zedd you like, and whine about "elites", and other populist nonsense all you want. But if you promoted the "shillary" nonsense, you sent a clear message that you didn't give a **** about our collective chances of beating Trump.

This is from the "Leaked DNC emails" thread (end of July):

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

DWS officially joining the Hillary campaign. Not that she wasn't already part of the Hillary campaign, but now it's official:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/hill...=1737131x84899

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

What on earth? How could this possibly be a good idea?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

Hilldawg loves her some unforced errors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

If Hillary loses in November this is one of the days her supporters should remember instead of knee-jerkingly pointing the finger at Bernie and his supporters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

This. ****ing Hillary slappies are handing a fascist conman a fighting chance at the White House. Couldn't even beat a geriatric socialist from Vermont without dipping into the dirty tricks bag; the general election is going to be an epic sweat. smh.

I am not happy that some people might have chosen to stay at home or voted for someone other than Hillary. I am not surprised or outraged either.You can only piss on somebody's shoes so many times before they won't vote for you.

01-25-2017 , 12:54 AM

#994

sportsjefe

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This look at the relationship makes sense to me.

(I know it's jezebel, click it anyway. You won't be disappointed.)

http://jezebel.com/melania-hates-don...ory-1791428158

01-25-2017 , 12:55 AM

#995

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Hopefully, but there's not much on the schedule so far.

The protest is in your heart zikzak.

01-25-2017 , 01:00 AM

#996

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

This is from the "Leaked DNC emails" thread (end of July):

I am not happy that some people might have chosen to stay at home or voted for someone other than Hillary. I am not surprised or outraged either.You can only piss on somebody's shoes so many times before they won't vote for you.

You guys **** in your own backyard as much as anyone else. Some of us moved on. Whereas eurodp and others still want to **** in their own backyard.

01-25-2017 , 01:01 AM

#997

d10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Again, my issue is with the narrative attached to the clip and the editing which removes context to support that narrative. Whoever made the clip wants people to believe Melania hates/is scared of/is abused by Trump. It doesn't matter that these things are likely true, you shouldn't need to deceptively edit what looks completely normal in context to make that point. The fact that there are other examples is all the more reason not to highlight this interaction as evidence of anything.