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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

05-01-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jt217
Obama made millions off of books while in office lol
lol

You're wrong.

He has published three books. Two were published before he was President. One, a children's book, was published while he was in office, but the manuscript was written and submitted before he was President AND the proceeds went to the Fisher House Foundation, a charity for children of soldiers who have been disabled or killed.
05-01-2018 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Don't patients have the right to obtain their own medical records? Don't they belong to the patient rather than the doctor? If Trump authorized his lawyer to remove his medical records from that doctor what's wrong with that exactly?
While I am, by no means, an expert on HIPAA, I don't think there is a provision allowing an individual or representatives of an individual to collect their own records.
The individual has right of access and rights to be furnished a copy, but there are procedural rules in place for how these are handled none of which (to my knowledge) allows for turning up on the doctor's door step and taking records away from the practice.

Edit: I feel stupid right now.
05-01-2018 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Having a patient's lawyer come into his office to get his files does seem to be getting off pretty light.
This seems like a completely lol way of describing what is alleged to have happened.
05-01-2018 , 01:52 PM
I know who the doctor was and nothing should surprise me but shouldn't have digital records as well? It's 2018 after all.
05-01-2018 , 01:57 PM
Isn't it obvious that trump is the leaker of mullers questions?

He is starting his undermining of public confidence in Mueller.
05-01-2018 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
I know who the doctor was and nothing should surprise me but shouldn't have digital records as well? It's 2018 after all.
Maybe he didn't keep digital copies of the really juicy stuff for easier disposal.
05-01-2018 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
This seems like a completely lol way of describing what is alleged to have happened.
probably a more accurate way to describe it would be a raid that left those in the office feel as though they had been raped.
05-01-2018 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by grenzen
Isn't it obvious that trump is the leaker of mullers questions?

He is starting his undermining of public confidence in Mueller.
Cool of him to confirm that the special counsel knows for a fact that Jared tried to set up a secret back channel with the kremlin through the russian embassy. Also cool of him to break the news that Manafort had reached out to russia for help during the campaign.

SOMEBODY’s credibility is getting undermined here. Still trying to figure out who but i’ll get back to you on it
05-01-2018 , 02:11 PM
Do you usually bring armed thugs in to pick up records you have a right to? Lawyers were like we could ask or get a court order or call the police, but nah, let's just bring the bodyguards.
05-01-2018 , 02:28 PM
OJ did 7 years for pretty much exactly that.

Think the question leak came from the White House, but it could have been a rogue leak instead of a planned leak.

We really need language to evolve to distinguish those two types of leaks.
05-01-2018 , 02:30 PM
I prefer Keeeeed the tv critic
05-01-2018 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
OJ did 7 years for pretty much exactly that.

Think the question leak came from the White House, but it could have been a rogue leak instead of a planned leak.

We really need language to evolve to distinguish those two types of leaks.
Given that it didn't come out until after Guiliani joined the team, there's some speculation that he might be behind it.
05-01-2018 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
OJ did 7 years for pretty much exactly that.

Think the question leak came from the White House, but it could have been a rogue leak instead of a planned leak.

We really need language to evolve to distinguish those two types of leaks.
huh? they had weapons drawn?
05-01-2018 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
That letter really blurs the line between serious and satire. "'[A]n independent news media is vital to the health of the republic...' But that also means that the dinner must be non-partisan and done without hostility...toward the party that occupies the White House."

Also, "past dinners were tremendous spectacles of dignity." Lollll


Also also, "We hope the dinner can get back to talking about the importance of the Fourth Estate."
Yeah The Hill is really letting the mask slip on this one
05-01-2018 , 02:39 PM
05-01-2018 , 02:40 PM
Briefly -

1) the patient has a right to have his medical record.
2) this is accomplished by presenting a release form to the hospital/providers office, at which time copies will be prepared and turned over to the patient/his agent upon receipt of the appropriate release form, which will be held by the hospital/provider.
3) the original record MUST BE RETAINED by the hospital provider for a statutory period (I believe 6 years, might vary from state to state) for reasons that should be obvious if you think about it for 30 seconds or so
4) Trump's doctor (who looks like a hobo) absolutely violated patient confidentiality by disclosing the meds he was writing Trump for. If that state has any sort of real medical board, he shold be in trouble.

MM MD
05-01-2018 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
He looks like he gained about 20 lbs. Wonder how many meds he's on?
05-01-2018 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hobbes9324
Briefly -

1) the patient has a right to have his medical record.
2) this is accomplished by presenting a release form to the hospital/providers office, at which time copies will be prepared and turned over to the patient/his agent upon receipt of the appropriate release form, which will be held by the hospital/provider.
3) the original record MUST BE RETAINED by the hospital provider for a statutory period (I believe 6 years, might vary from state to state) for reasons that should be obvious if you think about it for 30 seconds or so
4) Trump's doctor (who looks like a hobo) absolutely violated patient confidentiality by disclosing the meds he was writing Trump for. If that state has any sort of real medical board, he shold be in trouble.

MM MD
Is there a requirement, in line with the EU GDPR, to verify the identity of the requestor before handing over the records?
05-01-2018 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
He looks like he gained about 20 lbs. Wonder how many cheeseburgers he's on?
Fyp
05-01-2018 , 02:57 PM

https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/statu...86021718908931
05-01-2018 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
We really need language to evolve to distinguish those two types of leaks.
Trump really prefers they remain merged.
05-01-2018 , 03:00 PM
can't believe i have to spell this out.

yes i know OJ's gang had gun(s) drawn. the poster was making a comparison to Drumpf's doctor's office being "raided". i was pointing out the massive difference of guns not being drawn in that alleged "raid".
05-01-2018 , 03:02 PM
Goddamn, this guy is the most YOLO Doctor of all time. Would love to kick back and have a few beers with him.
05-01-2018 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
He looks like he gained about 20 lbs. Wonder how many meds he's on?
I don't know, but I'm wondering why this issue is a big deal since Dr. Jackson listed the same medications when he released the results of Trump's physical. Being that Trump has said that he wanted to be transparent, it doesn't seem likely that Borenstein will be in trouble for releasing that info, which I really don't recall hearing about at the time. That said, its not cool to send in thugs to claim medical records when there are normal procedures to accomplish the same thing. But that's daddy for ya.

      
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