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02-15-2017 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I think it's a mig-23, last made in 1985 and retired to the reserves for Russia.
I'm no expert but the caption says Su-24. Looks right- see wiki. Old but in wide service. Flown by the Russians, Ukrainians, and Syrians.
02-15-2017 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
It's only Tuesday...week 4
Yeah I'm watching Last Week Tonight from February 12th and it feels like it is a year old.
02-15-2017 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
Micro just wanted to floss his Russian fighter jet knowledge.
I didn't really have any such knowledge prior to seeing the tweet. I got curious and looked it up.
02-15-2017 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
^ thanks Bigoldnit!

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New entry in the "Somehow we end up dead at the end of all this" category:

Gd Maverickov and Gooseovich
02-15-2017 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
I'm no expert but the caption says Su-24. Looks right- see wiki. Old but in wide service. Flown by the Russians, Ukrainians, and Syrians.
One of the things I was wondering was whether or not it could have been a Syrian jet.

Su-24 and Mig-23 are very similar and both derived from the same prototype.

Su-24 is pretty old, but yeah, Russia is still flying them.
02-15-2017 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by valenzuela
Do you guys give a **** about the Russia ties or is it something you pretend to care about because the "America # 1" types may start turning their back on Trump?
One of my favorite things is when people flat out admit they know nothing about Russia or Geopolitics in the form of goofy questions.
02-15-2017 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
Spiegel Online says Trump wants Russia to give back Krimea. On phone, can't link.
Lol i would give anything to hear trump ask Putin that
02-15-2017 , 02:51 AM
cant find that link
02-15-2017 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
cant find that link
This story
02-15-2017 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by valenzuela
Btw I'm not saying that Trump isn't awful, he is. It's just that him having contacts with the Russians is not the reason why he is awful and having ties with the Russians doesn't seem that bad to me per se.
( this is clearly an intuitive opinion that I haven't really thought through , that is why I'm asking questions ).
The problem is that the contacts were made before he was President.
02-15-2017 , 03:09 AM
Yeah. If the bribery and extortion is 100% bull**** (lol) it's still illegal for very good reasons, and it's because he wasn't President yet.

Russian attempts to influence the election highlight some of why it's illegal, unethical, maybe even immoral
02-15-2017 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
That Hannity interview with Conway has me so ****ing mad I want to destroy something
Yep, me too. Just bask in the knowledge that Hannity is one of the biggest single-minded morons on the planet. It helps some.
02-15-2017 , 07:17 AM
Whatever happened to Katrina Pierson? just wondering
02-15-2017 , 07:43 AM
Unintended consequences on tourism.

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President Trump’s travel ban targeting nationals of seven Muslim-majority countries may not have held up in court, but it appears quite successful at keeping plenty of other people out of the United States.

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Online booking websites reported that flight searches from international points of origin to the United States were down anywhere from 6 percent to 17 percent since Trump signed the executive order on Jan. 27.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle...?event=event25
02-15-2017 , 07:57 AM
Trump tweeting again....

02-15-2017 , 08:05 AM
Has he seen Oliver's add yet?
02-15-2017 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
@ wichita

Source for the story about Obama asking Senate Republicans to make bipartian statement about Russian hacks during the election, and McConnell saying no.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtm...06c_story.html
Thanks for the link. I guess I misunderstood max it seemed like he was saying that Obama wanted to make a bipartisan announcement of what was coming out now and didn't announce at all because he couldn't get bipartisan support

Bottom line is that I think Trump is compromised just like you guys all do. But something doesn't make sense here. There are two theories being floated here as fact and neither of them make much logical sense.

1)Obama wouldn't harm democracy and instead let a known Russian operative become president. Already discussed ad nauseum why this makes little sense.

2)Now you guys pivot to they aren't blowing the lid off of it because they don't want to blow their cover in order to continue to gather evidence. Um the news stories all say Trump has known about this for weeks. Obama announced sanctions in December for interference. So no this can't be what is going on either. It reeks of someone who watched too much Homeland or something to trot this one out there.

3)Russians were the only ones under surveillance so that's why there is no direct evidence on Trump. Well no that's not right either as someone pointed out above with warrants for surveillance on the Trump campaign in October apparantly. Not to mention we are all under surveillance for "national security".
02-15-2017 , 08:11 AM
02-15-2017 , 08:12 AM
yeah, no
02-15-2017 , 08:21 AM
02-15-2017 , 08:23 AM
Confirmed shook.

He has no defense so he's just going back to his most popular campaign talking points/slogans. Crooked Hillary, liberal media bias. Expect something about waaaah I'm just trying to #MAGA by saving us from Radical Islamic Terrorists soon. The man is fully incompetent.
02-15-2017 , 08:24 AM
Trump confirmed shook.

Classic deflecting to Hillary.


Edit: And getting ponied by Kafja.
02-15-2017 , 08:26 AM
Trump needs a refresher on the proper use of hyphens.
02-15-2017 , 08:31 AM


He's literally going through every news channel desperately trying to find something to defend himself with.
02-15-2017 , 08:35 AM
Doesn't he have actual work to do?

He spends more time online than I do and I'm a student that's trying to find excuses to not work on my dissertation!

      
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