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02-14-2017 , 11:41 PM

#9226

synth_floyd

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Meh, if you want real political change, don't focus on impeaching Trump. Focus on weakening him and winning elections in 2018 and 2020.

02-14-2017 , 11:41 PM

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fatkid

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can someone ELI5

TRUMP pees on girls, there are vids confirmed by Moby. Jeff Sessions is 1/4 stick bug.

02-14-2017 , 11:41 PM

#9228

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Trump getting impeached basically kills the GOP though, it's on them and their deplorable voters.

02-14-2017 , 11:42 PM

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Seems to me that the dominoes are falling pretty quickly already. If some actual taped conversations get leaked, then the process could accelerate further. Strategically, does it make more sense for the GOP to delay things, or is it better to get Trump out sooner rather than later?

02-14-2017 , 11:43 PM

#9230

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

huh Obama was briefed about the discussions with russians? What?

Here's Harry Reid trying to get Comey to release it to the public back at the end of October.

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In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government — a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity. The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/31/harry-reid-just-made-a-huge-incendiary-evidence-free-claim-about-trump-and-russia/

02-14-2017 , 11:43 PM

#9231

miliboo

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Originally Posted by uDevil

Pisswatergate? I feel like this scandal needs a catchy name. Something befitting its eventual historical significance. Republicans are good at this. Liberals need to up their branding game.

Golden(shower)gate?

02-14-2017 , 11:44 PM

#9232

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Originally Posted by markksman

Anyone else worried about the safety of Mike Pence?

This is the question. If I'm Pence, I'm going to distance myself from this trainwreck pronto. Right now he seems to be clean but Bannon is certainly going to throw him under the bus when things start getting hairy for TRUMP.

02-14-2017 , 11:44 PM

#9233

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Is there any way to watch CNN w/o a cable subscription?

02-14-2017 , 11:45 PM

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What dominoes are falling? There is a reason the impeachment markets haven't moved more than a few cents on predictit. To impeach him you are going to need a hell of a lot more than Trump staffers speaking to Russia. You are going to need direct proof of some kind of traitorous activity. If that existed prior to the election I'm guessing it would have come out especially considering BO had knowledge of it prior to the election.

02-14-2017 , 11:45 PM

#9235

will1530

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How long before the White House runs out of trains to wreck?

02-14-2017 , 11:45 PM

#9236

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

huh Obama was briefed about the discussions with russians? What?

I just heard that too and thought about it. What is he supposed to do though? He can't exactly declare the election illegitimate or declare a state of emergency and stay in office. People would revolt. He also can't really come out and charge Trump because half the country would decry it as partisan politics. He really doesn't have a choice other than to let Trump hang himself unless I am missing another angle here. What else could he have done?

02-14-2017 , 11:45 PM

#9237

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

10 months and a half left to get there.

Yeah, but every time I think about it I remember the way Trump debased and humiliated Rubio and Cruz, and how meekly they fell to their knees for him afterward.

Even more, there have been articles posted on this forum from two former conservative radio guys who talked about how the conservative leadership [Edit: correction--conservative media] has created a monster they can no longer control. Nothing will make the spineless Republicans in Congress/Senate vote to impeach without overwhelming pressure from the base, and I just don't think that will happen.

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02-14-2017 , 11:45 PM

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Trump getting impeached basically kills the GOP though, it's on them and their deplorable voters.

Nixon got impeached, we had two years of Ford, then Carter then right back to Reagan who had Iran Contra which lead right to..... Bush Senior, so no it won't.

02-14-2017 , 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

You know those guys that have played the movie villain in like half of every generic action movie in the last 30 years? Those were the dudes team trump was dialing up every week.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily...-cabinet-picks

02-14-2017 , 11:47 PM

#9240

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Nixon got impeached, we had two years of Ford, then Carter then right back to Reagan who had Iran Contra which lead right to..... Bush Senior, so no it won't.

Hopefully in the age of information we.. ahhh nevermind

you're right

02-14-2017 , 11:48 PM

#9241

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Originally Posted by WichitaDM

It kind of seems that's where this is going. Knocking down the people and then the details will spill out at some point by those people or the people in possession of transcripts. Perhaps I'm too hopeful.

02-14-2017 , 11:48 PM

#9242

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Republican Senators don't need support for their base to impeach him. They just need to do the right thing.

Spoiler:

02-14-2017 , 11:48 PM

#9243

ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Is there any way to watch CNN w/o a cable subscription?

the cnn app lets you watch like 10 or 15 minutes free. idk what happens after that, i have a cable subscription so i just log in at that point

02-14-2017 , 11:48 PM

#9244

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Is there any way to watch CNN w/o a cable subscription?

http://www.playliv*****.com/2010/08/...cnn-news-live/

02-14-2017 , 11:48 PM

#9245

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Is there any way to watch CNN w/o a cable subscription?

YouTube is your friend.

02-14-2017 , 11:48 PM

#9246

pvn

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There are still Republicans talking about obamacare repeal-only. These are the dumbasses that will go down with the ship.

02-14-2017 , 11:49 PM

#9247

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

Senators don't need support for their base to impeach him. They just need to do the right thing

Spoiler:

if they impeach trump and pence they can install paul ryan as president and go ham on continuing to dismantle the government, scandal free

02-14-2017 , 11:50 PM

#9248

synth_floyd

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Just google "live cnn stream" and you can find a stream of CNN or MSNBC or Fox News or virtually any channel.

02-14-2017 , 11:50 PM

#9249

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

the cnn app lets you watch like 10 or 15 minutes free. idk what happens after that, i have a cable subscription so i just log in at that point

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

http://www.playliv*****.com/2010/08/...cnn-news-live/

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Originally Posted by JordanIB

YouTube is your friend.

Thanks guys

02-14-2017 , 11:51 PM

#9250

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Originally Posted by .isolated

I mean of course we all hope that there is some insane bombshell that will end this fiasco but it's not likely because if it existed certainly we would have heard about it months ago when it was discovered. If Trump is really a traitor they would have released proof and not allowed him to win the election or become president. The fact that his staff had conversations with Russia is not a damning fact. At least one member of Obamas staff did the same thing. You need proof of something illegal or treasonous that ties directly to Trump and I think that's unlikely based on the fact it's been sat on for literally months.

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