it really is, it's one of the most strongly agreed upon strategies in the commercial advertising industry.

as to why political propaganda works better on certain people - i've seen some interesting stuff on this that does suggest a genetic element, but it's gotta be more complicated than that.

Education

Identity and tribalism (GOP has dominated this ever since the Southern Strategy: "we are you. Dems are others. Conservative wholesome. Liberal depraved.")

Also, you yourself are susceptible to this, and have demonstrated it across the forums in different aspects. Everybody is susceptible. But you can't see that about yourself, because you have this image of yourself as cold and rational. It's probably not even your fault. When you were growing up, I'm sure you were always the most rational in the room, and people really would get upset at you for that. But now, you hang out here and I don't think you realize "bot" has a lot of sarcasm to it. People either laugh or get frustrated when you do a bad job portraying your lack of awareness on a topic as rationality.

What a disaster. How easy would it be for Russia to have put a spy at Marlago?

-dimly lit
-a million waiters walking around
-Public place
-Iphones near documents

not to be that annoying guy but probably cool to drop "******" from our characterizations of the administration's incompetence

Obama White House photographer Pete Souza has been trolling Trump since inauguration day, posting photos of Trump in various situations next to photos he took of Obama in similar situations.

In his latest, he posts Trump at Mar a Lago discussing the N. Korea situation while everyone looks on against the Cone of Silence Obama traveled with to discuss sensitive matters.

But you really can't just blindly repeat things and get people to agree with it if they have a different viewpoint. I could hear something like "2+2=3" literally a million times and you're not gonna convince me that its true. If I know something isn't true and you provide no real evidence to disprove my belief then I am not going to be swayed.

I understand that identity and tribalism matter, but those are things that predispose someone to believing something. If someone wants to believe something they don't need much of a push, but you can't simply convince someone of something they disagree with by repeating it imo.

I fully understand that people use "bot" sarcastically or as a pejorative at times. There is a difference between a lack of awareness and a different point of view though. I readily admit there are many areas where I have little or no knowledge. Hell, I knew <10% as much about politics 18 months ago as I do now and I still know multitudes less than many people itt.

Too much irony here for Mr. President. "It's FAKE NEWS!!! Sad!" to "wtf is happening in my office where the press is getting honest news". So pathetic.

Truth.

The Fox News stuff just fuels a massive rage. But otoh it advances the irony narrative*...

It's not that you're changing someone's mind. It's that their mind wasn't made up yet, or that you turned something they could "see the point of" into something that is an undeniable law of the universe.

Increasing enthusiasm, and turning someone who has sympathy for you into a true believer... efforts to do that have like infinitely more EV in politics than trying to change someone's values.

Exactly. If Conway can even plant the seed of doubt in people's minds that some of the things she is saying MIGHT be true, she's won a small victory. With the way TV works going out to millions of people at a time, this can be an incredibly effective strategy.

Not sure I understand what the hate was on the latest Greenwald piece. He essentially just confirms that leaking that benefits the public is very good regardless if illegal or not. He also highlights how no matter who is in power whether democrats or republicans they hate when leaks happen. I don't get what is controversial. His other stuff on Russia was him urging caution on intelligence leaks.

right. I agree with this. I'm not really talking about people who don't care to think for themselves. I'm more interested in decisions made by people who are using their brain and are inclined to think through things and look for facts before making a decision on what they believe.

Shouldn't individuals take it upon themselves to make up their own mind and form their own opinions by seeking out all sides of the story and the facts? I am not saying that most do or ever will, but just wondering if they should. I've always held the viewpoint that its irresponsible to just blindly believe what you're told no matter who the source is or what the topic is. I generally try to form my own opinions and seek out multiple sources of information and think others should too. If they don't then that's their decision, but it seems to make them more susceptible to being duped or simply following the uninformed masses to their own detriment.

If people are willing to be led astray by repeated misinformation that's a character flaw imo.

Also, to a lesser extent, you are overestimating people's abilities to figure things out themselves and be confident about it. People crave an authority to tell them how it is, despite their protestations otherwise.

Your 2+2=3 argument is funny because for a big percentage of people, that's about the level where it stops. Where everything past that becomes too complicated, and where repeated simple messaging is appealing enough to become dogma. If it's too complicated to grasp, the mind is great at saying "no way, it's simple, everything is simple, lol at eggheads claiming otherwise."

I posted a conversation I had with my mother-in-law a couple of weeks ago. I saw her this afternoon and in addition to her "Hillary for Prison 2016" sticker, she added a logo of InfoWars right next to it. Arizonan hillbillies imo. ****. These are the people that just don't change. She'll never change because she's never formed an opinion in her life. She's brainwashed by her brother and the ****ing Catholic church.

That's not even necessary. They have listening devices that use lasers and can pick up people's voices based on the vibrations on windows and things. You could be parked blocks away with nothing but a clear line of sight and pick up every word spoken in a given room.

That's one of the reasons why secure conversations are held in SCRIFs, but apparently lol that.

call it a hunch, but I don't think they bothered with that.

I'm waiting for
Mar-lago is so diverse--someone from every country in the world is here!

That's one woke MIL.

No need for all that. Flynn was there in person right?

Mostly for Fly to enjoy, here's Foldn Foldn-ing on the idiotic DeVos cartoon:

I agree. The term "mentally challenged" is more appropriate.

Yea everything, no matter how bad it hurts the middle class or helps the oligarchs, is going to be about bringing back jobs to the average Joe.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...gns-newday.cnn

In summary - Flynn was just acting in the best interest of the country, he's a good guy though, can't we just move on??? C'mon guys please, can we just move on?

OH MY GOD WHO DARED TO VERBALLY CRITICIZE SWEET KELLYANNE???

"unidentified male" was Matt ****ing Lauer and the interview was on the Today show and Hannity (and or his producers) just flat out altered that **** to try to make that ****ing goblin sympathetic




As usual, she lies her ****ing ass off and Hannity is butthurt that someone called her out on her bull****

A Look At The ‘Scarface’ Soundboard Donald Trump Uses To Intimidate World Leaders While He Is On The Phone With Them

Kelly looks beat up. Looks like she has two black eyes.