Who investigated the conversations? What benefit does improving relations serve to the US? All I've seen so far is the Trump campaign and now administration going out of its way to make life easier for Russia, and in return the US gets...to be allies with a dictatorship?

Here are the government offices that actually have the power to investigate and enforce laws against the President:

We're gonna all end up liking Spice aren't we? LOL

That's how bad this administration is.

This sounds like one of those things that will get replayed in a few months. I am of the opinion that there is a lot known by the IC that has yet to leak and will be a deep dive by Congress that will reveal some of it to the public.

Compared to federalist guy it was a very good question. LV was hit hard by the housing bust and the guy asked a legit question: What are you going to do to see to it that this doesn't happen again?

The answer was, of course, to deregulate everything because Dodd Frank made it worse

Spicer seems like a **** you kind of like because he's fun to hang out with.

This should be a good motivator for leakers, seeing someone actually get canned . Hopefully more follow fast!

Looks like the Republicans are trying to take advantage of their self-created crisis by jamming some unpopular policy through Congress:

I mean, let's face it, Flynn was only asked to resign because there are recordings of his calls with Kislyak.

Would a FOIA request get me access to those recordings or nah?

Some might say he the decider.

They'd probably send you a big blacked out piece of paper

I can say with 100% certainty that the two of you have spent more time watching FOXNEWS than I have. Work in some new dismissive comments to the rotation.


This is what everyone is currently speculating about, no?

I don't know. You don't know. Will either of us believe the answer that comes from the administration?

No matter the answer, he's gone now. So is your ultimate goal here to prove that he DID discuss sanctions, and that he did so under direct command from Trump? Otherwise, he's a lightning rod that got tossed under the bus and just gets replaced and we move on.

Can we stop for a minute and talk about why the hell the Obama "sanctions" are even something to get upset over? This is like when you were 8 and your friend gets you killed for the 15th time in the Wookie Hole in Battletoads and you tell him to go home. Everyone cools off for a while and ultimately no big deal.

I imagine a conversation where the Ambassador wraps up with, "Hey, Vladmir was in a Fantasy Football pool and you *******s tossed him out, what gives?" and Flynn laughs it off like, "Obama, amirite? We'll see what we can do in January."

Probably not the sort of thing the Logan Act was put in place for.

As horrible as Trump is he's really a good journalist's wet dream though. Like not only is he corrupt but he's also incompetent, contradicts his own staff (and vice versa) and then lies regularly. Plus they're doing a really crappy job of hiding stuff. It's not like it takes superhuman efforts to put stories and interviews together.

The creatures outside looked from fiscal conservative to white nationalist, and from white nationalist to fiscal conservative, and from fiscal conservative to white nationalist again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Inso0, WaPo had an article saying he talked sanctions with Russia. They had nine sources. NINE! Do you realize how insane it is to have nine sources on anything?

Holy **** Inso0 steps up with the "Hey, is it even a big deal that Russia is sanctioned for invading one of our allies?"

JUST ASKING QUESTIONS GUYZ

whoa, hey, i don't watch fox news! i get all my news from reddit, so it's not my fault for being completely uninformed!

Reminder that the sanctions on Russia were put in place specifically in retaliation for Russia interfering with the U.S. election process. It would now appear that the Trump campaign, via Flynn, negotiated to drop these sanctions. Which indicates that the Trump campaign was actually working with Russia the entire time to illegally interfere in the U.S. democratic process. That's called treason and it would also immediately show to everyone that Trump is not a legitimate President of the U.S. It's also hard to say if Pence could ever be considered a legitimate President of the U.S. since he was involved in the treasonous campaign as well.

Or, to put it more succintly:

Lol wat? The sanctions were bc they hacked the DNC...you know - bc they wanted to get a fat game show host elected.

Just lol, who do you think you are convincing here?

I think we need to go back over what Flynn did. When he talked to the Russian Ambassador he was not in any way, shape or form part of the United States government. That is where the Logan Act comes into play.

It seems logically that all this band of merry circus peanuts knew about what he had done and it only became an issue when someone who knew the truth let the information out. At that point the Nixoniancats decided a bumbling cover-up would work just fine.

That they are saying it was his job is just more absurd. Remember one of the previous lies was he was organizing a post-inauguration phone call between Trump and Putin. While he was part of Trump's goofball transition team, there are things they can't do. Flynn did one of them, and it seems pretty obvious most of the key actors knew on varying levels from when it happened to weeks before now. Someone like Spicer might not have known but the rest of them most likely did.

Go ahead and guess why he was asked to resign. It's not hard if you try and invoke a bit of honesty.

Acting like "how could we ever know that" is just ridiculous.

Which insoo and other members of Team Clown also see as no big deal, because it got their guy elected

I don't think Trump nor Obama nor Putin care much about the recent sanctions. They are tame.

Putin initially interfered because he wanted to erase the Ukraine sanctions. Putin doesn't want to give up his big oil dream and he doesn't want to give up his Soviet dream, so he had to find a way to make them both work. That way is Trump.

we are done here

It was literally the sort of thing the Logan Act was put in place for

Do you know anything about anything? JAQ