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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-14-2017 , 01:16 PM
And y'all are biting the whole ass. It's understandable though. These are the times that try wo/men's souls.

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Originally Posted by 5ive
Grunch, Noze is copypasting trumper statements he's finding online.
02-14-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Why do I always get the feeling Republicans put people in charge of committees based on them knowing as little about the subject matter as possible?
For one thing a lot of them want government to fail.
02-14-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Why do I always get the feeling Republicans put people in charge of committees based on them knowing as little about the subject matter as possible?
it seems to be based almost totally on seniority
02-14-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
House Intelligence Committee Chair: "FBI Needs to Explain Why It Was Recording Michael Flynn's Phone Calls"

I mean, there's an obvious answer to this but more concerning is THIS is what is the top priority of the House Intelligence Committee Chairman
All these spineless worms just trying to cover it up. This is despicable.
02-14-2017 , 01:19 PM
Yeah because the director of the secret service is traditionally a partisan position and it's entirely a coincidence the guy charged with running the organization to protect the president chose to retire now.

Im sure he let everyone know a year ago he would stay for three weeks post inauguration but then he would be retiring.

There is not necessarily anything sinister about it but it certainly is not innocuous. Best case scenario is he wanted out to get away from this crap fest. Given his job and duty that is still pretty telling.
02-14-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
All these spineless worms just trying to cover it up. This is despicable.
Rep. David Nunes, House Intelligence Committee Chair (202) 225-2523
02-14-2017 , 01:20 PM
All in the actual **** the "FBI Needs to Explain" is why the **** Comey sent that letter to Congress about EMAILS 11 ****ing days before the election. Full stop.
02-14-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Well he's nearly a month into his term. He hasn't accomplished a single thing yet. His EO -- which was worded terribly -- was stayed by the federal courts.

I don't think he's really done anything of value yet besides overheat the stock markets, which, while that increases my 403b value doesn't really matter because I don't plan on touching it for another 30 years.

But again, I don't get all fired up thinking the world is going to end like you all do.

I do like to call out the hyperbole here though when 3 weeks into his term you declare him the WOAT. It's because reality doesn't exist here. The actual reality of the situation is that Trump faces a steep learning curve going from businessman to President. And he's clearly fumbled around in the first 3 weeks.
Oh he will absolutely be the WOAT. How could someone be worse?

Lol Trump. Can't believe this guy. Definitely GOAT con man tho, don't think anyone denies that.
02-14-2017 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
Stepping back and looking at the whole picture here - it seems lol level obvious Trump was communicating w Russia pre election and is likely compromised by them in some way. Does anyone actually dispute this?

It seems like one of those things where the implications are so intense and far-reaching that everyone kind of pretends it isn't there but uh yeah, this **** happened. Not a conspiracy.
I don't think anyone is pretending it's not happening but of all of America's institutions who might prove adversarial and have the authority to achieve anything, we have...

The Democratic Party: powerless, largely inept
Media: mostly inept less a few WaPo reports and others
Law enforcement: powerful but most of the top of the chain now report through Trump
Judiciary: nothing for them here
Intelligence community/deep state: giving it an honest effort
Republican Party: THE LAST HOPE OF THE REPUBLIC

I think there plenty of people who recognize this is abnormal and extraordinary but remember the people both Constitutionally charged with holding Trump accountable are America's crypto surveillance state and law enforcement apparatus now under Trump's control and guys like Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn.

One of the things I've noticed even reaching back to the dawning of Trump in the GOP primaries is the quiet belief there's some collective will or forces beyond what we see to put a stop to bad behavior (manifestation here in this post: "everyone kind of pretends it isn't there.") One of Trump's subtle advantages, whether intentionally leveraged or not, is that we use so many norms and things like shame to police good behavior and Trump simply can't be shamed and isn't aware of or doesn't care for the norms and standards. The world has always dealt with problems like this, it's not a new or exotic one. Now it's on courageous people to act, on agents and guards of the system to move to the next level of enforcement. Americans have for better or worse chosen this moment to anoint the modern Republican Party as the vanguards of the Republic. I am not comforted by this fact but it remains a fact of the system we have, that there's not hidden or unseen forces which can stop Trump and the ones that do exist unfortunately have their interests largely align with his.

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02-14-2017 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Rep. David Nunes, House Intelligence Committee Chair (202) 225-2523
it's Devin Nunes but yeah this
02-14-2017 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Rep. David Nunes, House Intelligence Committee Chair (202) 225-2523
02-14-2017 , 01:28 PM
Also we got some WWF in da house now, Linda McMahon approved to head SBA
02-14-2017 , 01:30 PM
WOAT discussion is WOAT

We all know how much he sucks, trying to decide whether he's objectively a 'worse' president than Warren Harding or Franklin Pierce or whoever is pointless.
02-14-2017 , 01:33 PM


I mean, he is basically just trolling his staff at this point...
02-14-2017 , 01:34 PM
Meanwhile, back in December (but story seems to be just getting reported now), the Russians probably violated a bilateral misslile treaty by moving a new missile system out of a test site and into operational deployment.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/1...ol-treaty.html
02-14-2017 , 01:36 PM


It'll be fine!
02-14-2017 , 01:38 PM
Even when you consider social norms, Trump is probably the worst. Seriously doubt old Abe Lincoln would have made fun of a person with a disability to score some votes. Compassion counts.
02-14-2017 , 01:45 PM
Rep. Elijah Cummings just quoted Flynn's fake tweet. So ridiculous that fake news, fake tweets etc. have gained so much traction with so many people.
02-14-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
All in the actual **** the "FBI Needs to Explain" is why the **** Comey sent that letter to Congress about EMAILS 11 ****ing days before the election. Full stop.
Comey also apparently argued against telling Trump about Flynns conversations, saying it might impede FBI investigations. I'm a Comey defender, but damn, dude can't stop showing up in terrible spots.
02-14-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
House Intelligence Committee Chair: "FBI Needs to Explain Why It Was Recording Michael Flynn's Phone Calls"

I mean, there's an obvious answer to this but more concerning is THIS is what is the top priority of the House Intelligence Committee Chairman
Surely the last thing the Trump administration wants is a detailed explanation from the FBI of why they were recording those calls?
02-14-2017 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12




#MAGA BUDDY #MAGA

Lol

Once you complain about being the sole scapegoat, you are no longer falling on your sword
02-14-2017 , 01:51 PM
Super excited for Spiceman today, should be lots of fun.

02-14-2017 , 01:51 PM
Spicer in 10 minutes! Popcorn!
02-14-2017 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
Oh he will absolutely be the WOAT. How could someone be worse?

Lol Trump. Can't believe this guy. Definitely GOAT con man tho, don't think anyone denies that.
Yep, and as any conman can tell you, after you make the initial sale is the time to really bleed the sucker dry as the mark will do anything to try and preserve his dignity rather than admit he has been played for a dumbass. Awval is exhibit A for this.

Just the way Trump is using the office to enrich himself and promote his businesses is insane. May not be the most dangerous/damaging thing he is doing, but so blatant, shameless and undeniably wrong.

He doesn't even try to hide it, this guy has personally paid me a fortune, let me spice up his wedding with an official state visit by the Japanese PM. This company does not want to carry my daughter's products, let me attack them as sitting President! Just got elected President, let me double my club's initiation fees. Let me make a push to have foreign officials stay at my hotel. And on and on.

Disregarding the emoluments clause, the reason ethics laws against using the office for enrichment don't specifically apply to the President is that we trust the people not to elect a scumbag who would do that and for there to be swift public outcry and congressional reaction if someone was dumb enough to try.

"The President can't have a conflict of interest," what kind of insane doubletalk is that????? Of course ANYONE can have a conflict of interest, and the President is in an unbelievable position to abuse that conflict if left unchecked. Awval, have you been gaslighted by all the insane **** he has said that you are just going to nod your head and move along?

Instead, you get awval/Chaffetz shrugging and saying ethics laws don't apply to the President, what do you want me to do about it? I want you to enforce ethical norms and let the President know you want stand for his blatant use of the office of President for personal gain you smug, obtuse, m'fers!!!!!
02-14-2017 , 01:52 PM
How is it possible that so many intelligent people can't reliably distinguish between real and fake news and discern whether a twitter account belongs to who it claims to?

      
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