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02-14-2017 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
Putin is certainly enjoying this. It's much more fun than expelling diplomats.
Exclusive footage recorded in the Kremlin this morning

02-14-2017 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Csaba
Exclusive footage recorded in the Kremlin this morning

Aren't those sanctions still in effect though? I'm not so sure about this take.

Seems like if Putin's goal is just chaos, fine. He's winning a troll war. US is clearly trolled right now.

If he's actually trying to get the Trump Admin to get the US to transparently become far more amenable to Russian interests, the game seems harder now.
02-14-2017 , 07:06 AM
Yeah can't fathom Putin would be happy given that this was largely US intelligence-driven, but I guess we'll see what jackass is lined up to replace Flynn.
02-14-2017 , 07:15 AM
Actually though you can be sure that Trump will deal with that better than anyone. Trump has no time for distraction. Flynn is a patriot. The Russians at best are doing what they always have done. The Democrats are the most soulless institution in our society. They are a cancer that is on the verge of extinction if we resist their pathetic and dangerous attempts to sell everything and everyone they can to maintain their only possible access to a life of comfort and power, being elected by writing checks they never could cash. That's why this country and the world is a freight train headed off the tracks
Trump and his people are smart enougth to not get trapped here and yes there is a massive amount of government stooges not planted by Russia, planted by oputza and other turds before him. It's an apparatus that needs dismantling, or to use another phrase, repealed and replaced
02-14-2017 , 08:02 AM
That some part of the Russian intelligence apparatus tried to meddle with a foreign election by leaking information, and that some part of the Russian government wanted to discuss lifting sanctions with a contact close to Trump, is hardly evidence of a joined up conspiracy.

Doesn't mean there isn't one, either, I guess. And certainly doesn't mean that this current US government isn't doing some stupid and dangerous stuff. But acting as if every consequence is possibly good or bad for some imagined grand plan by puppet master Putin is daft. He, or the Russian regime, isn't playing 9D chess any more than Trump is. Maybe they're playing actual chess when the Trump White House is strictly a snakes and ladders kind of place, but that's it, and there are still chess players in the US I think, at least for now.

So, yeah, chin up. It's incompetence from a moron and his moron cronies you're really facing, not the cunning manoeuvring of a space chess grandmaster.
02-14-2017 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Aren't those sanctions still in effect though? I'm not so sure about this take.

Seems like if Putin's goal is just chaos, fine. He's winning a troll war. US is clearly trolled right now.

If he's actually trying to get the Trump Admin to get the US to transparently become far more amenable to Russian interests, the game seems harder now.
Possibly, I'm not really qualified to comment.

My post was slightly facetious
02-14-2017 , 08:33 AM
Off topic, but Mexican law makers already looking at turning to South America for corn imports. Like I said, farmers are going to take the brunt of Trump's Mexico shenanigans. We might get a hard test of their loyalty to Trump sooner than I thought.
02-14-2017 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Please let the next National Security Advisor being Petraeus so we can hear about how one of the highest positions in government has to check in with his parole officer.
It's almost guaranties to be someone he has seen on one of the news shows, so there can't be too many more options.
02-14-2017 , 08:38 AM
The Washington Post is reporting that Patreaus is on the short list.
02-14-2017 , 08:40 AM
I don't think this ends the Russian investigations. I would guess its closer to the beginning. Patreaus would be a huge upgrade hope that comes to fruition.
02-14-2017 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Trump has managed woat presidency in less than a month. It's an unmatched exhibit of losing.

The lol for Awval should stretch to the moon. Awval, backing the best people.
Do you remember GWBush?

Do you even politics, bro?
02-14-2017 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
02-14-2017 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
The Washington Post is reporting that Patreaus is on the short list.
Oh cool, the guy convicted of sharing classified information with his side piece. Best people.
02-14-2017 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
I don't think this ends the Russian investigations. I would guess its closer to the beginning. Patreaus would be a huge upgrade hope that comes to fruition.
I'm sure the first thing a scrupulous patriot on probation for sharing classified information will do is set out to further embarrass his boss.
02-14-2017 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Noze
Very Tough decision tonight, but you can see the great strength and great character of President Trump. President Trump will not hesitate to fire your ass if you lie or break the law. Another example of the Great President Trump putting America first and doing the right thing for the country. Thank You President Trump for the Great job you continue to do...
Only in the non-functioning mind of a trumpkin can hiring a senior person who is forced to resign in 2 weeks for national security violations be considered doing a great job.

Your stupidity is impressive.
02-14-2017 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Oh cool, the guy convicted of sharing classified information with his side piece. Best people.
Well as others have said: one of the highest positions in our national security apparatus in the Trump Admin might well be held by a criminal who plead guilty to unauthorized retention of classified material, who is replacing a guy who had to resign due to his potentially criminal contacts with a foreign autocracy. #MAGA

But all you have to do is see notorious "Never Trumpers" like seattle stare agog at his chest full of medals issuing assurances America is NOW in safe hands and the Trump Admin will now honestly and transparently self-investigate themselves, thank goodness. And you realize there's no amount of bad optics that can shake even Trump's SKEPTICS when the end of the tunnel are those sweet, sweet tax cuts. So Trump can nominate Patraeus, Invanka, Chris Christie, or Igor Sechin, doesn't matter, GOP ain't gonna move much and they have all the power so it's down the justice system literally prosecuting these people or just waiting until 2018/2020 to see what's left of free and fair elections.
02-14-2017 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
Conway: Trump has 'full confidence' in Flynn
In MLB, the dreaded "vote of confidence" is a pretty reliable signal that the closer is losing his job.
02-14-2017 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Wait, you think Flynn resigning is the Trump Administration being tough?

Conway literally said 8 hours ago that Trump said he was doing a good job.
You do realize in government "resigning" means Trump told him to he had to go and we can even pretend in 2+2 politics world that Bannon told Trump that he had to go, but it's the same thing, a forced resignation.

I'm sorry you didn't get to see Trump say "you're fired" to Flynn on TV though.
02-14-2017 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Only in the non-functioning mind of a trumpkin can hiring a senior person who is forced to resign in 2 weeks for national security violations be considered doing a great job.

Your stupidity is impressive.
I suspect your sarcasm meter is off.
02-14-2017 , 09:01 AM
Thank God awval checked in so we can get our periodic glimpse of trumpkin delusion. Pretending like Trump should get credit for forcing Flynn out 3 weeks after he was told by the DOJ that Flynn was probably compromised, and only after/because it all got leaked to the public.
02-14-2017 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Well as others have said: one of the highest positions in our national security apparatus in the Trump Admin might well be held by a criminal who plead guilty to unauthorized retention of classified material, who is replacing a guy who had to resign due to his potentially criminal contacts with a foreign autocracy. #MAGA

But all you have to do is see notorious "Never Trumpers" like seattle stare agog at his chest full of medals issuing assurances America is NOW in safe hands and the Trump Admin will now honestly and transparently self-investigate themselves, thank goodness. And you realize there's no amount of bad optics that can shake even Trump's SKEPTICS when the end of the tunnel are those sweet, sweet tax cuts. So Trump can nominate Patraeus, Invanka, Chris Christie, or Igor Sechin, doesn't matter, GOP ain't gonna move much and they have all the power so it's down the justice system literally prosecuting these people or just waiting until 2018/2020 to see what's left of free and fair elections.
I didn't think my Patraeus>Flynn comment would be controversial. I picture Patraeus as an Obama guy who the liberals would like. I see that is not the case.
02-14-2017 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
This is what Trump already looks like on week 3 of the presidency:



Yikes...
Shoulda picked a different chalice to drink from...
02-14-2017 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
You do realize in government "resigning" means Trump told him to he had to go and we can even pretend in 2+2 politics world that Bannon told Trump that he had to go, but it's the same thing, a forced resignation.

I'm sorry you didn't get to see Trump say "you're fired" to Flynn on TV though.
yes, just like Sally Yates resigned...oh wait
02-14-2017 , 09:15 AM
I really hope they name Petraeus the National Security Adviser. The hypocrisy will be impossible to deny.
02-14-2017 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
I didn't think my Patraeus>Flynn comment would be controversial. I picture Patraeus as an Obama guy who the liberals would like. I see that is not the case.
Stop being intentionally obtuse.

      
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