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02-14-2017 , 02:31 AM
Would be hilarious if Trump comes out defiant tomorrow with the breitbart defense, blaming it all on the media.
02-14-2017 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
I'm too unmotivated to go look but what was the reaction on chiefsplanet to Trump getting cucked by China. I had anticipated some spin from the wingnuts, but I didn't encounter any. It seems like it was basically just ignored.
I'm guessing the big headline that day was Lady Gaga or Lean Dunham or somebody said something that pissed them off, or maybe a there was a video on World Star HipHop where a bunch of black people beat up a white person shouting things about Trump. Right-wing media is GOAT at distracting them.

Last edited by suzzer99; 02-14-2017 at 02:37 AM.
02-14-2017 , 02:35 AM
I averted my gaze for a few hours. Turned on the tv... Holeee ****!
02-14-2017 , 02:39 AM
02-14-2017 , 02:40 AM
How bad is this Flynn thing for Trump ? Why can't be this framed as a bad apple and not a structural problem ?
02-14-2017 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Noze
But what's the real story? Is Flynn apologizing because he did something worth (being fired for) or because he's the center of a controversy. The whole "Russia did it" narrative is contrived and nonsense, and as the article says... this is just another component of that attempt to de-legitimize this administration.
Flynn resigned because he was caught in the effort to collude with the Russians to interfere in the US elections to help elect Donald Trump. Isn't that obvious?
02-14-2017 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by valenzuela
How bad is this Flynn thing for Trump ? Why can't be this framed as a bad apple and not a structural problem ?
Flynn isn't the only one in this administration with Russia ties is why the one bad apple thing isn't gonna fly with people as there needs to be a full independent investigation (gl getting one with a republican congress) but they're probably still trying to figure out if they should frame it as a bad apple/mistake or blame everyone else or somehow use it to justify attacking intelligence agencies.

Heck, I wouldn't put it past them to go on a giant rant and then blame media and that's now why they're not gonna hold daily press things anymore. Who knows with these people.
02-14-2017 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by runout_mick
Gotta admit that's some pretty strong spin. Almost artistic.
Dumb dummies being dumb.
02-14-2017 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Flynn resigned because he was caught in the effort to collude with the Russians to interfere in the US elections to help elect Donald Trump. Isn't that obvious?
I'm 98.5% sure Noze is a very liberal poster who's just copying and pasting from idiot alt-right comment streams - for our entertainment.
02-14-2017 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by valenzuela
How bad is this Flynn thing for Trump ? Why can't be this framed as a bad apple and not a structural problem ?
For starters, the Trump White House was warned about Flynn being compromised weeks ago and did nothing. Second it's not like this is the first issue to come up between Trump campaign/administration and Russia,and it won't be the last. Basically you have to bend over backwards mentally to argue/believe this is a bad apple... that is to say you have to be a republican congressman.
02-14-2017 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
You guys missed my favorite part on breitbart, the headline

Flynn Resignation Raises Tough Questions for FBI, Intel Services
Yeah how soon they can leak / leverage additional info to control the whitehouse.

The number of full on enemies trump's administration has one month in is unprecedented.
02-14-2017 , 03:16 AM
Moral of this still unfolding story: Don't **** with the Deep State.
02-14-2017 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I'm 98.5% sure Noze is a very liberal poster who's just copying and pasting from idiot alt-right comment streams - for our entertainment.
Well, he got me. I put him on ignore thinking he is a complete moron. nh, wp
02-14-2017 , 03:21 AM
Homeland showrunners have to be so depressed right now. They could have had their CIA rat****ing storyline where the rat****ers are the heroes!
02-14-2017 , 03:57 AM
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White House press secretary Sean Spicer, in a conference call with reporters on Jan. 13, said that the conversation between Flynn and Kislyak had “centered on the logistics” of a post-inauguration call between Trump and Putin. “That was it, plain and simple,” Spicer added.
This amuses me because why would Flynn ever be the one managing a post innaguration phone call.
02-14-2017 , 04:09 AM
Lol at those Breitbart comments, but they're not even close to the level of delusional hatespew going on in /The_Donald right now.
02-14-2017 , 04:12 AM
Conway seemed more out of the loop on this than Spicer, right?

So, maybe she's next.
02-14-2017 , 04:30 AM
Noze, I'm sad that you've been conned into thinking the daily barrage of scandals must mean that "the media" is engaged in the largest conspiracy of all time. Can't possibly be that we elected an incompetent, corrupt, career conman.
02-14-2017 , 05:44 AM
Putin is certainly enjoying this. It's much more fun than expelling diplomats.
02-14-2017 , 05:48 AM

Just lol at this picture.
02-14-2017 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
Moral of this still unfolding story: Don't **** with the Deep State.
Well either that or dont be an idiot. Everyone knew the phone calls happened and they didn't even really try and cover this up. The dude was denying it almost immediately. Just amazing anyone could think they would get away with it.

I mean LOL at this being some deep intelligence community coup, the guy was literally on TV denying it happened like the day after.
02-14-2017 , 06:27 AM
My fear is that the left will look at this and go yay no more Russian influence in the Trump administration.

Flynn is just one cog in the wheel of Russian influence on American politics.
02-14-2017 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
My fear is that the left will look at this and go yay no more Russian influence in the Trump administration.

Flynn is just one cog in the wheel of Russian influence on American politics.
Allay those fears.
02-14-2017 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
My fear is that the left will look at this and go yay no more Russian influence in the Trump administration.

Flynn is just one cog in the wheel of Russian influence on American politics.
Don't see any chance of that happening. If there's one thing establishment Democrats and the base is more or less united on it's probably this -- namely, the political efficacy and usefulness of lambasting Trump as a Russian tool. Even the left-libertarian wing like Greenwald et al aren't doing much to confront this anymore. I initially questioned the political wisdom of it but I mean the facts seem like they are more or less aligning with the fact the Trump Admin looks divided and inept on this very thing (Flynn lying to Pence, having to ditch the guy 3 weeks into the administration) if not moving toward proving some of the worst conspiracy theories. Even if like miraculously the Trump Admin is operating transparently and not totally co-opted by Russia, their guy just went down for potentially violating the Logan Act and lying about it. Like the Democrats basically have no choice here, the circumstances are going to force them to go all-in here. Presumably some internal GOP pressures will mount from the Graham McCain wing.

It's also tabloidy and sensationalist where you can dig deep and discover more ("BREAKING NEWS ALERT"). And now the media has genuine questions that need answering, namely: like, wait, why was Flynn lying to Pence et al? What did Trump know? Why did the Justice Department think Flynn was vulnerable to blackmail?

This story isn't going anywhere. At least probably not. Maybe Trump will get saved by some outside event or he'll have some REALLY good distraction zingers or whatever on Twitter. Maybe he's now planning to prosecute Hillary or maybe TEN MILLION PEOPLE voted fraudulently or maybe some celebrity looked at him sideways.
02-14-2017 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
My fear is that the left will look at this and go yay no more Russian influence in the Trump administration.

Flynn is just one cog in the wheel of Russian influence on American politics.

      
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