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02-14-2017 , 01:08 AM

#8601

th14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

The whole "Russia did it" narrative is contrived and nonsense, and as the article says... this is just another component of that attempt to de-legitimize this administration.

Carter Page, Paul Manafort, now Michael Flynn, all forced off Trump's team because of improper ties to Russia.

if the Russia angle is contrived, why do so many people with impermissible ties to Russia end up close to Trump?

I don't remember any other POTUS filling out their staffs based on loyalty to a foreign country.

02-14-2017 , 01:08 AM

#8602

stinkubus

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What % of Breitbart comments do you suppose are Russian shills?

Sent from my LGL52VL using Tapatalk

02-14-2017 , 01:08 AM

#8603

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

But what's the real story? Is Flynn apologizing because he did something worth (being fired for) or because he's the center of a controversy. The whole "Russia did it" narrative is contrived and nonsense, and as the article says... this is just another component of that attempt to de-legitimize this administration.

If you think being the center of a controversy even registers a blip on the Trump administration's radar, you have not been paying attention.

02-14-2017 , 01:10 AM

#8604

wheatrich

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Really am surprised he resigned this soon.

while everyone rightfully presumes there won't be an investigation from congress/gop

There is a military court and there is apparently an army investigation about Flynn getting $ from russia in 15.

02-14-2017 , 01:10 AM

#8605

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

02-14-2017 , 01:11 AM

#8606

Noze

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"Some experts now wonder whether Moscow’s muted response might have
stemmed from Flynn informing Kislyak that the Trump White House would be
open to lifting the punitive restrictions once he took office."

Obama was trying to start a war with Russia, which has done nothing to the USA. What was so terrible about Flynn telling the Russians that President Trump was open to peace and reconciliation? Flynn should be given the Nobel Peace Prize.

02-14-2017 , 01:11 AM

#8607

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

MICHAEL FLYNN RESIGNS

**** yeah!!11 Happiest I've been to eat crow in a long while.

02-14-2017 , 01:12 AM

#8608

ChrisV

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Yeah so I can't find the time exactly, but a little over an hour ago Breitbart posted this story. It must have been about exactly the same time the news was confirmed that Flynn had resigned.

Quote:

Media coverage of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn shows that the press believes he is done for and it is only a matter of time until President Donald Trump fires him or he resigns. The excitement in the press over the chance of a Trump administration sacking is palpable.

CNN’s report on Monday gives us a few paragraphs of melodrama before conceding that a “senior administration official” told the network that “Flynn has no plans to resign and no expectations that he will be fired”.

...

CNN’s headline says that Flynn is “on thin ice.” CBS News sees his “job security in jeopardy.” MSNBC declares “the White House’s Michael Flynn problem” has reached a “tipping point.” Time smelled blood in the water when White House official Stephen Miller “sidestepped repeated chances Sunday to publicly defend him” when he appeared on various talk shows.

WHY would the media report that????? What is their agenda?!?!?!

02-14-2017 , 01:12 AM

#8609

d10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

But what's the real story? Is Flynn apologizing because he did something worth (being fired for) or because he's the center of a controversy.

If only we had public representatives with the constitutionally granted authority to find answers to these questions...

https://oversight.house.gov

02-14-2017 , 01:12 AM

#8610

RV Life

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LOL Noze.

02-14-2017 , 01:12 AM

#8611

surfinillini

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It's only Monday people. There's still the classified briefing in between the 1st and 2nd course at Mar-a-Lago to tackle this week. Among other things like Miller stating the president has absolute power and "will not be questioned". Yea ok whatever junior. ****ing looney tune.

02-14-2017 , 01:14 AM

#8612

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Yeah so I can't find the time exactly, but a little over an hour ago Breitbart posted this story. It must have been about exactly the same time the news was confirmed that Flynn had resigned.

WHY would the media report that????? What is their agenda?!?!?!

My favorite part about Breitbart is they pretend to be the media and that the real media is corrupt. Not even the Onion is that shameless.

02-14-2017 , 01:17 AM

#8613

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

It's illegal, bruh.

02-14-2017 , 01:20 AM

#8614

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

tweet was deleted, looks like

02-14-2017 , 01:22 AM

#8615

surfinillini

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

It's illegal, bruh.

Someone itt linked that 20min Maddow monologue about this last week. Basically stating that usually there is an immediate (or almost immediate) response to sanctions. Essentially tit for tat. In this case Russia didn't act because of the back channeling Flynn was doing. So history proves one thing but in this case nothing happened.

When it comes to Putin every action results in an equal and opposite reaction.

Except when Flynn is involved.

02-14-2017 , 01:23 AM

#8616

DeuceKicker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

shut the **** up with your incoherent bull****

Wait... he's not a Poe? There's no way his last few posts were serious, right?

Edit: Nevermind.

Last edited by DeuceKicker; 02-14-2017 at 01:27 AM. Reason: Slow Poe-nie

02-14-2017 , 01:23 AM

#8617

zikzak

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While Trump scandals mount, Chaffetz decides to investigate... a cartoon character

Quote:

The chairman of the powerful panel — the main investigative committee in the House — sent a letter to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention demanding to know why, in an attempt to raise awareness of the Zika virus, “CDC appears poised to make a sole source award to the Jim Henson Company for $806,000 to feature Sid the Science Kid in an educational program about the virus.”

Scandalous!

Sid, for readers not familiar with PBS children’s programming, is a preschool cartoon character. Like President Trump, Sid is orange. Unlike Trump, he is highly inquisitive. In each episode, Sid answers questions such as: Why can’t he scratch his ear with his foot the way his dog can? Why does his stomach growl when he makes French toast? Why did his yellow banana turn brown and mushy? In one of my favorite episodes, “The Big Sneeze,” Sid discovers that he needs to wash his hands even if he can’t see germs on them.

02-14-2017 , 01:29 AM

#8618

ChrisV

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The emerging narrative on Breitbart is that Flynn did nothing wrong and this is a media conspiracy undermining Trump's efforts to MAGA, but also if it does turn out Flynn did something wrong, then of course he did, he was a Democrat all along.

02-14-2017 , 01:29 AM

#8619

Chippa58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by surfinillini

I thought it was a given that Flynn had talked about the sanctions. Because of the timing of his conversations. Because of the lack of a Russian response. Because Flynn is tight with Russia. Because Flynn is tight with Trump. Because Trump is tight with Putin. I thought that Pence lying about it was just part of the plan. I'm still a little fuzzy over whether the Administration is upset that Flynn lied or because he talked about the sanctions.

02-14-2017 , 01:30 AM

#8620

surfinillini

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Trumpers all seem to be Scientologists. Completely removed from reality.

02-14-2017 , 01:30 AM

#8621

Bigoldnit

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This statement has not aged well.

02-14-2017 , 01:33 AM

#8622

Coasterbrad

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I'm shocked that Trump didn't take this opportunity to personally fire Flynn in a big show of power.

02-14-2017 , 01:33 AM

#8623

Noze

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God damn, Brietbart is amazing.

02-14-2017 , 01:35 AM

#8624

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Coasterbrad

I'm shocked that Trump didn't take this opportunity to personally fire Flynn in a big show of power.

those midwest yokels want to hear THE CATCHPHRASE

it's why they went out and voted!

02-14-2017 , 01:35 AM

#8625

surfinillini

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From twitter:

A poem:
Roses are red,
violets are blue,
if Michael Flynn has ties to Russia,
Trump probably does too.

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