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02-11-2017 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Phones how do they work?
The way they work is that 99.5% of US customers use a phone sold by their carrier, and the sort of person who would buy an overseas unlocked phone would probably turn off signatures in the app before posting.
02-11-2017 , 11:11 AM
Lol @ going to war with the IC. those dudes know the CYBERS. Bad!
02-11-2017 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
thing is, it really doesnt matter. pence is just as bad as trump. republicans are evil and incompetent. they will continue to kill this country by destroying the poor and middle class for the benefit of the rich. they will continue to destroy meaningful banking regulations so that ppl get screwed and the chance of a crash occurs. they will continue to destroy the environment.

pence may actually be worse bc he will actively work to strip lgbt of their rights.

and he may be worse bc he could actually be competent enough to make this stuff work and go through. trump has a far higher chance of effin it up due to his idiocy.
Pence is not as bad as Trump. He is mentally stable and can read. Also he is even less popular than 45 and would get crushed in 2020.
02-11-2017 , 11:19 AM
Why do people think this Flynn thing will hurt Trump? Wouldn't it take take republicans to act against him? Can anyone cite any evidence that more a couple republicans have any inclination to do so? They are total and complete cowards and have demonstrated so a hundred times in the past 2 years.

A tape could be released with Trump promising to let Putin make all decisions and it would only be disregarded as fake news.
02-11-2017 , 11:35 AM
My sister said given the circumstances I think Trump has done a very good job so far. My family man
02-11-2017 , 11:42 AM
Yeah I had a guy who I had to teach the difference between refugees and illegal immigrants say if Trump would just stop tweeting it would be great. waaf
02-11-2017 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Why do people think this Flynn thing will hurt Trump? Wouldn't it take take republicans to act against him? Can anyone cite any evidence that more a couple republicans have any inclination to do so? They are total and complete cowards and have demonstrated so a hundred times in the past 2 years.

A tape could be released with Trump promising to let Putin make all decisions and it would only be disregarded as fake news.
It's something that's clearly impeachable should the House look for a reason, but yeah, they won't. It reminds me of the build up to Iraq 2.0. It was pretty well known and reported that the intel for WMD was BS, but that fact got lost in the noise and it was years before it gained any sort of traction. Far too late by then, of course.
02-11-2017 , 11:46 AM
Surgeon neighbor with a 17 year old daughter thinks trump is amazing. Tilts me so hard.
02-11-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Why do people think this Flynn thing will hurt Trump? Wouldn't it take take republicans to act against him? Can anyone cite any evidence that more a couple republicans have any inclination to do so? They are total and complete cowards and have demonstrated so a hundred times in the past 2 years.

A tape could be released with Trump promising to let Putin make all decisions and it would only be disregarded as fake news.
I'm at least hopeful that it might cause Rs to force out Flynn. No way in he'll they are coming for Trump's head though. Either way it's one more little crack between Rs, especially Pence and Priebus, and Trump, and even bigger crack between the intelligence community and Trump.

I wonder if Clinton had all the scandals Trump does, if she would already be impeached or just facing impeachment?
02-11-2017 , 12:02 PM
I have a question regarding immigration law and Trump's possible use of them to pressure sanctuary cities. Rather than threaten to withhold federal money, which is a complicated process and of limited value, could he instead start going after non criminal undocumented people in those cities only? Is he within his legal rights to do that, stopping only when those cities start turning in the undocumented who are arrested? Even Republicans have admitted that they don't have the ability to deport most of the undocumented in the US. But they could concentrate on those cities. If they could legally pull that off it would seem like it would be a strategy that the sanctuary cities would be forced to cave to.
02-11-2017 , 12:04 PM
Jesus Sklansky
02-11-2017 , 12:05 PM
And the ethics of what you're proposing as a strategy don't concern you at all?
02-11-2017 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
The way they work is that 99.5% of US customers use a phone sold by their carrier, and the sort of person who would buy an overseas unlocked phone would probably turn off signatures in the app before posting.
Is that a real statistic or just one you are assuming in order to make whatever sort of argument you think you are making?

Shocking that Amazon would sell unlocked Huawei phones that have over 2,000 customer reviews (and at a 4+ star average!). I guess those US Embedded Russian trolls need their devices I guess? lol@u
02-11-2017 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kep
Right and I think a lot of people in those red parts of blue states would just seek refuge in a red state rather than being circled in and crushed in a violent civil war.
I'm sure the South was 90% anti North in almost every county. Nowadays here are very few places more than 70% blue. Plus the South knew that elections in upcoming years had no chance to turn the tide. This whole civil war idea is silly.
02-11-2017 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I have a question regarding immigration law and Trump's possible use of them to pressure sanctuary cities. Rather than threaten to withhold federal money, which is a complicated process and of limited value, could he instead start going after non criminal undocumented people in those cities only? Is he within his legal rights to do that, stopping only when those cities start turning in the undocumented who are arrested? Even Republicans have admitted that they don't have the ability to deport most of the undocumented in the US. But they could concentrate on those cities. If they could legally pull that off it would seem like it would be a strategy that the sanctuary cities would be forced to cave to.
Only because I joked earlier about this earlier, precisely which arm of law enforcement did you have in mind for this?
02-11-2017 , 12:11 PM
Oh yeah I forgot about reading about this last night:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...fe5_story.html


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A video that circulated on social media Friday appeared to show ICE agents detaining people in an Austin shopping center parking lot. Immigration advocates also reported roadway checkpoints, where ICE appeared to be targeting immigrants for random ID checks, in North Carolina and in Austin. ICE officials denied that authorities used checkpoints during the operations.
02-11-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC
And the ethics of what you're proposing as a strategy don't concern you at all?
Given that they likely won't concern the Trump administration, it's useful to disregard them when gaming out future possibilities imo.
02-11-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Is that a real statistic or just one you are assuming in order to make whatever sort of argument you think you are making?

Shocking that Amazon would sell unlocked Huawei phones that have over 2,000 customer reviews (and at a 4+ star average!). I guess those US Embedded Russian trolls need their devices I guess? lol@u
Shocking to see you white knight somebody like BS over a bit of tangential snark. Just shocking.
02-11-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I have a question regarding immigration law and Trump's possible use of them to pressure sanctuary cities. Rather than threaten to withhold federal money, which is a complicated process and of limited value, could he instead start going after non criminal undocumented people in those cities only? Is he within his legal rights to do that, stopping only when those cities start turning in the undocumented who are arrested? Even Republicans have admitted that they don't have the ability to deport most of the undocumented in the US. But they could concentrate on those cities. If they could legally pull that off it would seem like it would be a strategy that the sanctuary cities would be forced to cave to.
This has huge backfire potential and it would be a tactical mistake for Trump to try it. So he's 90% to do it.
02-11-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
I'm at least hopeful that it might cause Rs to force out Flynn. No way in he'll they are coming for Trump's head though. Either way it's one more little crack between Rs, especially Pence and Priebus, and Trump, and even bigger crack between the intelligence community and Trump.

I wonder if Clinton had all the scandals Trump does, if she would already be impeached or just facing impeachment?
She would be impeached by the house 10000%. Would not have gone through the Senate yet but there would be unparalleled media pressure on D Senators to bring justice to this clear traitor and enemy of America.
02-11-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Shocking to see you white knight somebody like BS over a bit of tangential snark. Just shocking.
So you say complete nonsense in attacking someone, then assert statistics that you just made up, and then attack me for pointing out your nonsense? Clean livin'
02-11-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Only because I joked earlier about this earlier, precisely which arm of law enforcement did you have in mind for this?
Einsatzgruppen has a nice ring to it.
02-11-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Given that they likely won't concern the Trump administration, it's useful to disregard them when gaming out future possibilities imo.
02-11-2017 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl


I'll defer to people who have security clearance but lol.
02-11-2017 , 12:54 PM


OMG, refugees are fleeing dangerous countries!

      
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