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I really don't understand why these people don't just get over it. Like abortion has been legal in the US for what, 40 years now? Why do they keep fighting this battle?

Think of all the illegals sucking off the social tit who are taking the jobs of millions of dead American fetuses.

01-24-2017 , 03:04 PM

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I agree 100% with you that Hillary effectively failed to get people to vote for her. One of many reasons you can point to that she lost. My point is that all of these things mattered in such a close election and one thing going a different way may have been the difference.

Some might consider actions and decisions from the Hillary campaign >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DAPL protestors posting on Facebook. Not all "reasons you can point to that she lost" are created equal.

Then again, I blame Lena Dunham!! so who am I to throw stones

01-24-2017 , 03:04 PM

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Last I checked Warren Buffet wasn't President; neither is Hillary Clinton, so neither of them are relevant when discussing Trump's conflicts.

I was just pointing out the political reason it was not approved under the Obama administration.

01-24-2017 , 03:06 PM

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Lena Dunham is terrible and should never speak again on politics. I have hated for years, even before she waded horribly into the political arena. Her show is trash written by someone who has had a privileged upbringing trying to act like she was born in poverty.

01-24-2017 , 03:08 PM

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Yeah have we ever had a POTUS obsessed with being recognized for winning the election like this? Most are obsessed with getting to work. Did he think it would be months of parades and parties?

He's doing both.

01-24-2017 , 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp

January 24th, 2017

WH Press Secretary is asked about Trumps belief that massive voter fraud occurred in the 2016 election.

"It's just something he believes and has believed for a long time"

LOLOLOLOLOL

Yeah moving on, this is a much bigger problem than everything else just discussed. Ridiculous. Every time anyone ever speaks on his behalf they should be asked about this.

01-24-2017 , 03:09 PM

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Hillary got 3 million more votes. Don't blame a bunch of hippies that not all votes are created equal in the US sham democracy.

+2 million where in Ca.

01-24-2017 , 03:10 PM

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I really don't understand why these people don't just get over it. Like abortion has been legal in the US for what, 40 years now? Why do they keep fighting this battle?

Yet a single mother that can't afford to put food on the table needs to pull herself up by the bootstraps and get with the program. Just not a social safety net program.

01-24-2017 , 03:12 PM

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Deals, deals, deals, deals.

01-24-2017 , 03:12 PM

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+2 million where in Ca.

What does that have to do with anything? Even if you take those votes away, she still got another 1.5 million more.

01-24-2017 , 03:14 PM

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You rang?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...deduction.html

It will be interesting to see the reaction from charities (read: churches) to this

This may be the actual worst article in the history of Slate.

01-24-2017 , 03:14 PM

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He's doing both.

And you are OK with this? Dude was elected almost 3 months ago. 3 months.

You know how at work when someone gets promoted or hired? Everyone that day is like "Hi, congrats on the promotion!" or "Hi, welcome to the company!"?

Do you still say that **** 3 months later? Because that's what this clown is doing. He's patting himself on the back and expecting people to kiss his ass.

01-24-2017 , 03:16 PM

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I was just pointing out the political reason it was not approved under the Obama administration.

So to clarify, Obama didn't approve the DAPL because it would make Warren Buffet more money?

01-24-2017 , 03:17 PM

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+2 million where in Ca.

Trump was +800k in Texas. What's your point?

LOL this Gary Johnson voter trying to pretend he doesn't love Trump.

01-24-2017 , 03:19 PM

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President Trump is a workaholic, he never stops working for the Ame-

01-24-2017 , 03:20 PM

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Trump was +800k in Texas. What's your point?

LOL this Gary Johnson voter trying to pretend he doesn't love Trump.

IF YOU TAKE AWAY CROOKED HILLARY'S VOTES, TRUMP WON BY 60 MILLION!

01-24-2017 , 03:21 PM

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I never said anything about donating, see above post in relation to that part. I never donated to Hillary and never would have. I only supported her because I thought (incorrectly, obviously--but also before Trump won the nomination) that she had the better chance to win the general. I would have vastly preferred Biden, or even O'Malley, at the time.

Anyway, my overall point that I'm trying to make (and I hope you agree) is that Democrats need to have a laser-like focus on achieving our objectives at all times, like Republicans do. We failed in that regard before the election (in ways that we just discussed) and it looks like we are still failing. I said this before--it's time to let the more progressive members take the lead and see what they can do. I support them 100% (I mean FFS in the end I agree with 95% of what progressives stand for, probably more than I do most "moderate" Dems).

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just here to LOLOLOL at all the people who went nutso over DAPL LITERALLY the week before the election, checking in on Facebook, protesting, donating, etc. instead of making sure Hillary won

in fact, seeing the protestations and constant Facebook chatter may have driven people to Trump in swing states

But as far as the rest goes, I don't know what to do really. Many people seem to be voting solely on the culture wars and identity politics and it seems like the liberal side is a minority on that right now - at least as far as the electoral college goes.

01-24-2017 , 03:21 PM

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Grunch,

TRUMP is a crazy and bad POTUS already!

01-24-2017 , 03:23 PM

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my bad, actually didn't realize I wrote that, re: donating--I shouldn't have

01-24-2017 , 03:24 PM

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Omg please be true

maybe slow pony and should maybe look it up, but I don't think that can be true. The stage and the flags and all that look like the inauguration, the order the uniformity of clothes in different areas, not a lot of pink hats....

01-24-2017 , 03:25 PM

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Grunch,

TRUMP is a crazy and bad POTUS already!

This is an accurate adios post, which must mean he's writing it sarcastically

01-24-2017 , 03:26 PM

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Hillary got 3 million more votes. Don't blame a bunch of hippies that not all votes are created equal in the US sham democracy.

Those 3 million votes were illegal tho.

01-24-2017 , 03:26 PM

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Grunch,

TRUMP is a crazy and bad POTUS already!

To be fair he is following through on many of his "first 100 day" promises, which I didn't expect. On the other hand I don't see how any of them help middle class Americans in the slightest.

01-24-2017 , 03:26 PM

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Trump was +800k in Texas. What's your point?

LOL this Gary Johnson voter trying to pretend he doesn't love Trump.

facts are facts. I'm not a Trump lover

and this.

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Originally Posted by Jiggymike

To be fair he is following through on many of his "first 100 day" promises, which I didn't expect. On the other hand I don't see how any of them help middle class Americans in the slightest.

The pipelines will help for a short time some union jobs nothing else he's signing does anything that I know of.