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02-10-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
The reporting on the Russia stuff is starting to have a Watergate feel. Lots of dots, if the reporting starts to connect them this is going to blow up bigly.
Until the actual pee video shows up, the Republicans wont turn on him.
02-10-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Until the actual pee video shows up, the Republicans wont turn on him.
Sure they will. Once they know Trump is hurting the GOP more than helping, they'll throw him to the curb like a sewer rat.

Someone ITT mentioned it earlier. Right now, it's political suicide to go against him.
02-10-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
The reporting on the Russia stuff is starting to have a Watergate feel. Lots of dots, if the reporting starts to connect them this is going to blow up bigly.
Well, it does involve water.
02-10-2017 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
How though? It's not North vs South. It's rural vs urban. Unless you mean a coalition of states vote to secede? But even then you still have the rural vs urban. Even CA,OR and WA have huge red areas that would never go along w/ the blue parts of their states.
Not sure. Let's take the sanctuary city stuff for instance. Let's say all large urban cities join together and say No, we will be a sanctuary city and will not instruct our police to look for this. What if in turn the feds decide to cut all funding to those cities? Is it not possible that the cities affected form some kind of coalition to strike back?
02-10-2017 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
The reporting on the Russia stuff is starting to have a Watergate feel. Lots of dots, if the reporting starts to connect them this is going to blow up bigly.
Let's say conclusive proof comes out that Trump is on the take, that we can prove he is treasonous in some way. Is there a possibility of a recall election? Nobody voted Pence into office, and there is no way to assume he didn't have some idea it was going on. A traitor winning the election due to outside influence seems like perfect grounds for a recall.
02-10-2017 , 07:06 PM
So the key to #TheResistance is somehow convincing Putin he would be better off with Pence.

There is no chance of a recall, would require an amendment.
02-10-2017 , 07:06 PM


Lol even the Kansas City local news is trolling Trump.
02-10-2017 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Let's say conclusive proof comes out that Trump is on the take, that we can prove he is treasonous in some way. Is there a possibility of a recall election? Nobody voted Pence into office, and there is no way to assume he didn't have some idea it was going on. A traitor winning the election due to outside influence seems like perfect grounds for a recall.
seems like such a recall would require the GOP to risk giving up some power, so the likely answer is lolno.
02-10-2017 , 07:12 PM
538.com has a great tracker for those in Congress supporting Trump.

Tracking Congress In The Age Of Trump:

An updating tally of how often every member of the House and the Senate votes with or against the president


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...s-trump-score/
02-10-2017 , 07:20 PM
What do you think of my hands Shinzo people said they're small but I don't think so I mean they're not Japanese small like yours they have a nice grip a good grip the best grip I have the best hands you know here let's shake again feel that grip that's a man grip you got that too nobody knows Japan better than me and I know that you guys are okay it wasn't you guys who got boated in and voted for Clinton making me lose the popular vote so I don't have a problem with you guys you have all that ninja stuff my kid Barron is on the cyber watching this show called Nuhrootoe man my Japanse is good isn't it and it will help us in our fight against RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM to investigate voter fraud in my country and in Japan to combat unfair trade with China and further decrease the unemployment rate to make america great again because I alone can fix it.
02-10-2017 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Yeah. I'm gonna start WAAF LLC. Still working on the business model. According to the New Yorker billionaires are snapping up apocalypse housing, so I'm thinking I'll buy farmland and build nuke proof luxury apartments.
I read this whole monstrosity of an article and the whole time I was baffled as to how so many of these people that have massively profited off of the system that has now given us Trump are thinking of hiding instead of coming up with solutions. It really just shows that the rich and powerful will do very little to stand in the way of an authoritarian like Trump and are more likely to pack up and leave or go along with it.
02-10-2017 , 07:28 PM
They real joke is that they're going to be safe in that bunker if the **** really hits the fan. Hmm let's see I'm in the national guard and I've got bazookas and grenades, but no food... how to remedy this? No, can't steal food from the rich *******s who brought this on us all. That would be WRONG.
02-10-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
I have been listening to supposedly smart conservative podcasts like "Three Martini Lunch" and surprise surprise, they are total and complete bull****. A couple of hot takes:

1) I've never seen such insecurity. These allegedly grown men are confirmed terrified of the charicature of "THE LEFT" that they paint with seemingly no sense of how ridiculous it makes them sound. They control everything and still can't hide the fear in their voice.

2) They do seem legit concerned about E Warren's appeal. Not sure what to make of that. Could definitely see them jamming the Native American theme ad nauseum, to the surprise of no one.

3) Most importantly: they are no better than Trump. This is important. The GOP is Donald Trump. He is what they want. What seems to you, me, and other critical thinkers as absolute bat**** insanity is *the way things should be* to these guys. I started listening to these podcasts w the hope that they would acknowledge some Trump missteps/incompetence (since, you know, the election is over and all) but yeah no. Everything is not only the fault of "The Left," but the left is mocked and ridiculed for even caring!

Listening to them defend DJT stumping for Ivanka's ****ing clothing line by talking about Solyndra.

Dunno why I do this **** to myself.
I had posted a NYT article a few days ago written by a conservative talk show host saying how conservatives needed to return back to fact based conservatism and that the short term gains of saying millions of illegals vote is outweighed by long term damage of having a delusional base. It got me really pissed. The GOP def needs to fall on the sword for this ****.

02-10-2017 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
How though? It's not North vs South. It's rural vs urban. Unless you mean a coalition of states vote to secede? But even then you still have the rural vs urban. Even CA,OR and WA have huge red areas that would never go along w/ the blue parts of their states.
Tell them to go back where they came from obviously.
02-10-2017 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by eurodp
I read this whole monstrosity of an article and the whole time I was baffled as to how so many of these people that have massively profited off of the system that has now given us Trump are thinking of hiding instead of coming up with solutions. It really just shows that the rich and powerful will do very little to stand in the way of an authoritarian like Trump and are more likely to pack up and leave or go along with it.
Obviously, though, right? One of the benefits of being rich is that you have way better risk mitigation strategies than a regular bozo. Rich people can gamble a lot more on politics just like they can in casinos. Lots of rich people are sharp enough to understand that the downside risks of Trump were way larger than an average politician but went to bat for him because they calculated they can fade a lot of the terribleness, including some really bad case scenarios.

All along during the Trump era, going back to the campaign, I think there's been this quiet, unspoken assumption there is some shadowy band of elites or just the effects of some questionable set of incentives that will force people to confront and ultimately defeat Trump. I understand the psychological need for that; it would be comforting if it were true. But it's not.

Here's the thing: there were plenty of wealthy elites who voted for or explicitly supported Trump but understood the risks as normal people describe them. They are just calculating they can still come out of it OK.

I feel like I had this conversation with bobman recently, who was expressing some disappointment with the mainstream GOPers for not subverting Trump. I was *sort of* giving him one half of a lecture for being naive and one half of a lecture for the despicable nature of anyone who tolerated the last 40 years of the elite + extreme right-winger media/thought bubble nexus. People say the left looks down on the angry white tribalists and surely they do, but the right has been ****ing taunting them. They've been training them like dog fighters condition Mastiffs. They've been making ever increasing promises drifting ever more from reality with escalating preposterous rhetoric about scape-goats and fostering their fear and paranoia -- all in the service of less taxes and less regulation. This whole insanity has been transparently been building and the GOP, companies and interests allied with their outcomes have been engaged in it for decades now.

And the responsible parties knew what they were doing and kept on taunting the dogs and giving them scraps and giving it bait animals to work with.

And when **** hits the fan and the dogs go berserk in the pit and start attacking everyone, the trainers and the owners and the bookies are going to be the first ones out of the arena. No question. Don't expect any less. They won't be the vanguard defense corps of the dog fighting game to settle things down and get the dogs back on their leashes. Come now. Anyone who is sleeping better because they know elites seem a little disengaged and careless now but once their profits are threatened or we veer away from stability, they'll set things right THEN -- won't happen. This is why you don't cynically cultivate anger and fear and paranoia in people and we all should have done more to raise the alarm, because the people doing it had absolutely no mitigation strategies or plans to clean things up if they went south. Well, they did, but their back-up plans were for them, not you. Twas ever thus.

Last edited by DVaut1; 02-10-2017 at 07:46 PM.
02-10-2017 , 07:43 PM
BREAKING NEWS: JAN BREWER IS STILL A HOT TURD.
02-10-2017 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Can the west coast secure and operate at least a few nukes? I ask for a friend.
The hippie dippy West coast people sure have changed a lot over the years.
02-10-2017 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
When I get home tonight so you want me to dig out your posts that slurped all over trump for ignoring the one China policy or are you going to just apologize for being wrong again and we're cool until tomorrow when you'll be humiliated again?
WTF are you babbling about?
02-10-2017 , 08:00 PM


I'll defer to people who have security clearance but lol.
02-10-2017 , 08:05 PM
Not sure if Donjr is talking about snow

02-10-2017 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Maybe that's what's needed. It's quite possible we see another civil war in my lifetime.
I guess I need to start buying more bullets and MREs?

Last edited by surfinillini; 02-10-2017 at 08:16 PM.
02-10-2017 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Let's say conclusive proof comes out that Trump is on the take, that we can prove he is treasonous in some way. Is there a possibility of a recall election? Nobody voted Pence into office, and there is no way to assume he didn't have some idea it was going on. A traitor winning the election due to outside influence seems like perfect grounds for a recall.
Under those circumstances he would be impeached, or more likely resign and be pardoned by President Pence. Sort of like Nixon-Ford. There is no mechanism for a Presidential recall.

You'll probably see President Pence handing out tons of pardons before this is over. Somebody should make book on it, like an over/under on the number of people President Pence pardons.
02-10-2017 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
I guess I need to start buying more bullets and MREs?
Its always good practice to buy more bullets.
02-10-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Obviously, though, right?
Good post and yea. I guess it is obvious and disappointing that people would be unwilling to take responsibility and just continue to do what is in their best interest regardless of the pain it has caused others. I mean they pushed policy that created this so that they would benefit.
02-10-2017 , 08:27 PM




This is the backstory:

Trump brought up the issue while meeting with 10 senators who were there ostensibly to focus on Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch. Ayotte was in the room because she has signed on with the White House to shepherd Gorsuch through the confirmation process.

A source familiar with the meeting confirmed that before the meeting turned to Gorsuch, the president told the group that he and Ayotte lost in New Hampshire because thousands of people were “brought in on buses” from Massachusetts to “illegally” vote in New Hampshire.


www.wmur.com/article/trump-blames-his-ayottes-nh-losses-on-thousands-of-illegal-massachusetts-voters/8729704

Last edited by Max Cut; 02-10-2017 at 08:37 PM.

      
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