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02-10-2017 , 06:23 PM

#7801

prana

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

What are the odds of another 9/11-ish attack - or an Orlando shooting but in a white church instead of a gay nightclub - in the next 4 years? Cause it's mass-hysteria time if anything like that happens. Trump will say see I was right, and his popularity will skyrocket.

Until he fails miserably at damage control after the fact. I don't think he can manage a crisis. He can't even function without creating them in his own. He will definitely try and capitalize on it though.

02-10-2017 , 06:26 PM

#7802

BroadwaySushy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I thought he was trying to prevent that happening.

02-10-2017 , 06:27 PM

#7803

suzzer99

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Right - by banning people from the countries that have originated zero terrorist attacks.

Oh there I go thinking you care about logical consistency. Lol @ me.

02-10-2017 , 06:28 PM

#7804

LostOstrich

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Trump and his supporters would be legit delighted if there was a major Muslim terrorist attack any time soon.

02-10-2017 , 06:28 PM

#7805

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prana

Post 9/11 was GWB's popularity peak. It took a lot of **** ups over time to knock him off that perch. Hell, I remember watching his first post-9/11 speech and thinking I was glad he was our president during this kind of crisis.

02-10-2017 , 06:31 PM

#7806

BroadwaySushy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LostOstrich

Trump and his supporters would be legit delighted if there was a major Muslim terrorist attack any time soon.

I think you are wrong about that.

02-10-2017 , 06:31 PM

#7807

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LostOstrich

Trump and his supporters would be legit delighted if there was a major Muslim terrorist attack any time soon.

Oh yeah - here's exactly how it will go:

10:49am - terrorist attack - unknown assailant(s)
10:50am - millions of Trump supporters take to social media to say I told you so
10:51am - Trump tweets I told you so
10:52am - Unchained blows up with infinitely witty bon mots about how it must be the Buddhists acting up again
10:53am - Chiefsplanet explodes with calls to nuke the entire Middle East
11:00am - any resistance to the "I told you so"s is met with "HOW YOU CAN YOU POLITICIZE THIS TRAGEDY SO SOON? HAVE YOU NO SHAME? OH MAMMAY I GOTS THE VAPORS!"

02-10-2017 , 06:31 PM

#7808

RV Life

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I'm legit terrified of another 9/11 occurring. When 9/11/01 occurred, I remember EVERYONE wanted to help out whether it was with giving blood or donating food, etc. No way that happens this time. It will fracture the country even worse than it is now.

02-10-2017 , 06:36 PM

#7809

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Maybe that's what's needed. It's quite possible we see another civil war in my lifetime.

02-10-2017 , 06:37 PM

#7810

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy

I think you are wrong about that.

You'll be itt within 5 minutes with your pom poms and cheerleader outfit. GIMME A T! GIMME AN R! GIMME AN U! ... GOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!!

02-10-2017 , 06:37 PM

#7811

wheatrich

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I only remember everyone waiting in line for hours at a gas station and panicking that the small town I was in at the time--was certainly next. I tried to use logic on each point but that obviously didn't work.

I don't wanna go back to that level of stupidity but people never learn. Y2k, ebola, doesn't matter only thing you can do when the herd stampedes is get the hell out of the way.

02-10-2017 , 06:38 PM

#7812

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Maybe that's what's needed. It's quite possible we see another civil war in my lifetime.

Can the west coast secure and operate at least a few nukes? I ask for a friend.

02-10-2017 , 06:39 PM

#7813

Dunkman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darksideofthewal

In February 2005 nobody had heard of Obama. This administration offers an unique opportunity for a democrat to get name recognition by being an obstructionist.

Should no new challenger arise, Warren is indeed the favorite to be the Democratic nominee.

I mean, like, I think a couple people had heard of him by then...

02-10-2017 , 06:40 PM

#7814

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

I only remember everyone waiting in line for hours at a gas station and panicking that the small town I was in at the time--was certainly next.

I don't wanna go back there to that level of stupidity.

I remember being so proud of the US that there were a very small # of incidents involving US Muslims. No way that happens this time People will want blood.

02-10-2017 , 06:41 PM

#7815

True North

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Originally Posted by zikzak

Clinton ran on youth and charisma. His centrism was beside the point.

This made me think of what was the last time the less charismatic candidate won a presidential election. I'm drawing a blank. Maybe Carter over Ford, but that was more a final repudiation of Nixon.

02-10-2017 , 06:43 PM

#7816

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I remember being so proud of the US that there were a very small # of incidents involving US Muslims. No way that happens this time People will want blood.

I wish I didn't agree with you on this. Won't just be muslims, sikh's or anyone who's even remotely middle eastern gonna be a target and they won't care.

02-10-2017 , 06:45 PM

#7817

Dunkman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Interesting that they aren't appealing the stay to SCOTUS and instead will defend on merits in the District Court. I guess that's the right strategic choice?

Seems like it. They have to believe, as most of us do, that there's a very low chance that the SC will overturn the TRO. And so the decision won't say anything favorable for Trump. What it may do, however, is comment on the merits of the case and that could be very detrimental for the EO in the future.

02-10-2017 , 06:47 PM

#7818

LostOstrich

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alternative possibility: what if the next mass killing in the US involves a white supremacist shooting up a mosque? Presumably the Trump administration, the media and the public are instantly united against the new biggest threat to freedom, right?

02-10-2017 , 06:47 PM

#7819

suzzer99

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I saw on the tweeters that they are working on a less inclusive ban that just eliminates refugees and new visas. Sadly this may pass through. Why they included green card holders in the first place is either hubris or sheer incompetence.

02-10-2017 , 06:48 PM

#7820

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich

Lol that's not news. How many Trumpfans even heard of Quebec? Trump refused to mention it. Reverse the religions and it would still be front page on CNN.

02-10-2017 , 06:50 PM

#7821

ShallowMalePig

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A scandal a day.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politi...ate/index.html

Quote:

For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN. As CNN first reported, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration.

None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.

But the intercepts do confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier, according to the officials. CNN has not confirmed whether any content relates to then-candidate Trump.

02-10-2017 , 06:51 PM

#7822

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Maybe that's what's needed. It's quite possible we see another civil war in my lifetime.

How though? It's not North vs South. It's rural vs urban. Unless you mean a coalition of states vote to secede? But even then you still have the rural vs urban. Even CA,OR and WA have huge red areas that would never go along w/ the blue parts of their states.

02-10-2017 , 06:52 PM

#7823

Double Eagle

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The reporting on the Russia stuff is starting to have a Watergate feel. Lots of dots, if the reporting starts to connect them this is going to blow up bigly.

02-10-2017 , 06:53 PM

#7824

iron81

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

I can't wait for the troll polling on the Bowling Green Massacre.

Yeah!

02-10-2017 , 06:53 PM

#7825

BigRedChief

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prana

US investigators corroborate some aspects of the Russia dossier

My favorite part:

The bolded is the go to excuse for receiving friction about anything and reminds me of the SNL skit a lot lol.

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