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02-09-2017 , 09:29 PM
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You desperately need to google due process.
There is no such thing in the world of trump.
02-09-2017 , 09:29 PM
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Yeah, Ferguson is a ****ing BOSS
He's a Chessmaster and has visited every mlb park.
02-09-2017 , 09:33 PM
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Brzezinski trolling POTUS. What a world.
02-09-2017 , 09:35 PM
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He's a Chessmaster and has visited every mlb park.
He's a FIDE Master, which doesn't really qualify as a master imo.

I imagine Trump can never remember how the horsey moves.
02-09-2017 , 09:36 PM
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I have to admit it would be funny if he simply ignored the ruling but I don't see how he can actually do that. This last 2-3 weeks I've watched more news than I watched the previous 15 years total
02-09-2017 , 09:41 PM
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That Brietbart vid was amazing.
02-09-2017 , 09:43 PM
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I have to admit it would be funny if he simply ignored the ruling but I don't see how he can actually do that. This last 2-3 weeks I've watched more news than I watched the previous 15 years total
If you are sincere, and not a troll, may I ask why exactly this would be funny? A Presidential administration openly defying an appellate court order, unanimously decided no less, would be nothing less than a crisis.
02-09-2017 , 09:47 PM
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If you are sincere, and not a troll, may I ask why exactly this would be funny? A Presidential administration openly defying an appellate court order, unanimously decided no less, would be nothing less than a crisis.
I guess because I like excitement more than anything. I think the more likely scenario is the one I heard Van Jones say almost a week ago now on CNN which was that Trump might orchestrate a fake terrorist attack to make himself look right. I wouldn't at all put that past him. Any sort of incident where miraculously nobody is badly injured or killed in the next several months would be suspicious to me
02-09-2017 , 09:50 PM
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% reversal is based on cases they choose to review. So that puts a storing bias toward reversal. They choose to not review tons of cases where there is obvious SCOTUS concensus to uphold. Without counting those the % reversal is meaningless.

Also wonder how 3-0 decisions fare Vs 2-1 decisions.
02-09-2017 , 09:56 PM
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He's a FIDE Master, which doesn't really qualify as a master imo.

I imagine Trump can never remember how the horsey moves.
FIDE chess masters are masters tho. More so than USCF chess masters
02-09-2017 , 09:56 PM
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My prediction as a non attorney is that the SCOTUS denies cert on the TRO, tosses the EO eventually 6-2.
Predicit says there's an 85% chance SCOTUS hears it FWIW.
02-09-2017 , 09:57 PM
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I guess because I like excitement more than anything. I think the more likely scenario is the one I heard Van Jones say almost a week ago now on CNN which was that Trump might orchestrate a fake terrorist attack to make himself look right. I wouldn't at all put that past him. Any sort of incident where miraculously nobody is badly injured or killed in the next several months would be suspicious to me
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
02-09-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Predicit says there's an 85% chance SCOTUS hears it FWIW.
Yeah they are granting cert, it's basically a lock.
02-09-2017 , 10:02 PM
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FIDE chess masters are masters tho. More so than USCF chess masters
I guess. When people say "masters" I think IM or GM.
02-09-2017 , 10:06 PM
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It likely doesn't make the SCOTUS or if it does it's a different order by then. They won't send it there til Gorsuch is in and by then the order likely will have expired. The Dems and GOP are in a tough spot now. The Dems don't want to delay because it now appears they have a motive behind it other than just getting back at the GOP for the Garland thing and the GOP won't want to use the nuclear option either. So this could become interesting
02-09-2017 , 10:08 PM
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I guess because I like excitement more than anything. I think the more likely scenario is the one I heard Van Jones say almost a week ago now on CNN which was that Trump might orchestrate a fake terrorist attack to make himself look right. I wouldn't at all put that past him. Any sort of incident where miraculously nobody is badly injured or killed in the next several months would be suspicious to me
Trump's far more likely to wait and take anything he can spin it into a muslim attack (ie another orlando, which was an american anyway, or a muslim doing anything wrong somewhere in the world) and go wayyyyyyy overboard with it than fake one himself. Bannon on the other hand...
02-09-2017 , 10:09 PM
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I guess because I like excitement more than anything. I think the more likely scenario is the one I heard Van Jones say almost a week ago now on CNN which was that Trump might orchestrate a fake terrorist attack to make himself look right. I wouldn't at all put that past him. Any sort of incident where miraculously nobody is badly injured or killed in the next several months would be suspicious to me
Please answer my question that I asked earlier ITT.

If you think the SC will rule 7-2 or 8-1, why the need to wait til after Gorsuch is a SCOTUS justice?

Cognitive Dissonance is a bitch isn't it?
02-09-2017 , 10:09 PM
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by then the order likely will have expired.
The order is never expiring.

Hope that helps.

I mean to let it expire would require a complete 180 from trump's thought processes.
02-09-2017 , 10:11 PM
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The portion of the order for Syrian refugees does not expire. Changing my vote prediction to 6-3
02-09-2017 , 10:13 PM
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FIDE chess masters are masters tho. More so than USCF chess masters
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02-09-2017 , 10:13 PM
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Please answer my question that I asked earlier ITT.

If you think the SC will rule 7-2 or 8-1, why the need to wait til after Gorsuch is a SCOTUS justice?

Cognitive Dissonance is a bitch isn't it?
Because they will do it out of precaution. I don't think the administration trusts anyone right now so they're going to wait til they know they have 5 votes
02-09-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Because they will do it out of precaution. I don't think the administration trusts anyone right now so they're going to wait til they know they have 5 votes
Godot will show sooner
02-09-2017 , 10:17 PM
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Trolling someone who threatened to put you in jail is a really stupid thing to do. 3-0 years you'll be in prison if he gets desperate hillary. Your strat at this point is to lie low and hope he forgets you existed.
still America though
02-09-2017 , 10:21 PM
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Because they will do it out of precaution. I don't think the administration trusts anyone right now so they're going to wait til they know they have 5 votes
But it's gonna be 7-2 or 8-1 in your view. Why do they have to wait? His vote will not matter.

Just admit you are talking out of your ass when you say this garbage about this being overturned.
02-09-2017 , 10:23 PM
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also, I don't want to quote the post that mentioned it, but the meme that Pence is as bad or worse than Trump is flat out wrong imo. Obviously Pence is terrible, obviously he is a rubber stamp for the GOP, obviously he would aggressively pursue a theocracy the best he could.

But he is not insane. He is not mentally ill. Those factors and the fact that we are a nuclear superpower outweigh everything else AINEC.
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