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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-09-2017 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
Nah that's what they want. They want the Federal Government to be treated with such disdain and abhorrence that no one will dare put their faith in the systems of government again.
Yea, I don't get it. I really don't. I mean everyone has neighbors, friends and family that work in the government. I have a friend that hates government and wants it completely abolished. Yet, she's married to a mailman and her father worked in the CIA for 20 years. It's just so *head explodes* sometimes.
02-09-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewT50
There's just way too much we don't know to be at all certain.

You have to keep in mind that we've had three weeks of complete idiocy and incompetence coming out of the Trump Admin, and this is literally all self-inflicted. Not a single outside thing has broken remotely against Trump and he still has an absurdly leaky White House that can't keep itself without a scandal for twelve consecutive hours.

Imagine once bad things actually start to happen. And this whole useless, demented apparatus of morons and demagogues stumbles over itself and screws absolutely everything up it can, and still finds new self-inflicted wounds for itself to boot.

There really must be a limit to how long this can go on for.
I think it depends on what the bad thing is. If it's another 9/11, Trump will scream "I told you so!" and when they are incompetent afterwards, they'll blame it on the LIBRUL SHEEPLE that were too stupid to see it coming.

But if it's something bad like a national disaster, then yea, you are probably right. Even then, liberals will probably still get blamed. Like if there's a huge earthquake in Cali, it will be the liberals fault for not preparing properly. "Maybe you should have spent more time preparing than protesting!" would be a popular phrase from the right.
02-09-2017 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
Wat
The economy has been growing yet trump got elected because at least in part, many people are clearly doing worse. He could funnel $ to every single trump voter at the expense of every single clinton voter. Market would tank, but it doesn't matter, it's all relative. For the most part, only rich people own stocks so the stock market is mostly irrelevant.
02-09-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Tornadoes rip through Louisiana, Clownface tweets about...Nordstrom
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
who needs to tweet about tornadoes when ivankas shoes are going in the clearance rack.
In fairness, @POTUS did tweet about the tornadoes:


While looking for that tweet, I saw this one that's flat out hilarious though:


The ****ing President has to ask aides about basic **** he should know.

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Originally Posted by wheatrich
For the most part, only rich people own stocks so the stock market is mostly irrelevant.
Close to half of Americans have a 401k.
02-09-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Yea, I don't get it. I really don't. I mean everyone has neighbors, friends and family that work in the government. I have a friend that hates government and wants it completely abolished. Yet, she's married to a mailman and her father worked in the CIA for 20 years. It's just so *head explodes* sometimes.
The mail has been losing a **** ton of $, trump's really gonna be pissed at them when he figures that out.

Yeah, it's annoying when people are literally arguing against themselves but what can ya do.
02-09-2017 , 04:50 PM
That story about the Putin call is completely and totally bonkers (and horrifying obv).
02-09-2017 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
The ****ing President has to ask aides about basic **** he should know.
What an absolute lunatic this guy is.

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TRUMP: Let me explain. Let me explain. Somebody hits us within ISIS  —  you wouldn’t fight back with a nuke?
ISIS lands a terrorist attack that kills 100 Americans tomorrow....Trump nukes the god damn middle east because, ISIS. What in the actual ****
02-09-2017 , 04:53 PM
Kafja,

Good post.
02-09-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Spencer seems agitated like he's gonna lose his job soon.
Freudian slip or precognition? Spencer will be Spicer's replacement.
02-09-2017 , 05:06 PM
Trump told Putin the 2010 treaty was one of a number of bad deals negotiated by the Obama administration — and also bragged about his own popularity during the call, Reuters said.


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02-09-2017 , 05:24 PM
Where was this anger 6 months ago?

02-09-2017 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
.In sum - yeah it's bad and we are right to fear direct attacks on voting rights, but the optimist in me replies that the egregiousness of this takeover has awoken and mobilized the young in a way that could significantly change the map.
I'm optimistic about this too. A couple reasons: Trump doesn't have 40% of voters locked up. In terms of eligible voters he had 27%, a lot of those were anti-Hillary, and I expect more Trump voters to leave his camp than to join, even considering the fact that a lot of his voters will never leave his camp no matter what he does. Second, I'm cautiously optimistic that we won't straight up ban massive numbers of Democratic leaning voters. Ramp up suppression techniques that depress turnout, sure, but there's a limit to how much of that you can get away with. Those who understand statistics (like most of this forum) understand that these techniques ultimately have the effect of giving Republicans an x% advantage, which is enough to win swing states that otherwise would have been lost. But that same line of thinking should lead you to believe that a Democratic candidate that excites voters and 4 years of a disastrous Trump presidency will likely lead to a Democratic advantage that more than makes up for the suppressed votes.

This is all dependent on the Democratic party selecting a candidate that can actually encourage turnout and most of our democracy surviving the next 4 years, neither of which are locks, but if those two conditions are met I wouldn't expect Trump to win in 2020.
02-09-2017 , 05:28 PM
Megan McCain can go **** herself. She was shilling for Trump on Fox News TODAY.
02-09-2017 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Where was this anger 6 months ago?

McCain bent the knee pretty damn fast when it came to confirmation votes.
02-09-2017 , 05:29 PM
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02-09-2017 , 05:35 PM
Spicer's going to do an exclusive interview with breitbart. **** him straight to hell
02-09-2017 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Drowning in Russian whore piss
02-09-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
You're not one of those people.
You can't know that, but I wasn't talking about myself regardless. I am talking about public figures.
02-09-2017 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
FAKE NEWS!!
02-09-2017 , 05:56 PM
lol chuck tingle
02-09-2017 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Where was this anger 6 months ago?

I like the pundits who didn't get cucked, OK?
02-09-2017 , 06:01 PM
In other unsuprising news, the unemployment numbers were fake until they looked good for Trump. Now they're gospel.
02-09-2017 , 06:02 PM
Sean Spicer: I can only hope that if Coretta Scott King was still with us, that she would support Senator Sessions's nomination.

If only there were some document or correspondence where she expressed her feelings about him
02-09-2017 , 06:06 PM


Should be fun to see this so-called decision in the next 3 or so hours.
02-09-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JoltinJake
If I were to construct an argument against Warren it would be along these lines. It goes to the discussions we were having here after the election about charisma vs. likability vs. character, etc.

Warren is kind of a tough one to peg. She generates a ton of excitement on the left. Fiery is a good word to describe her.

But charisma or likability? Eh, not so sure. Her DNC speech was pretty bad too. In a long campaign I don't know how this plays out but I'm a little worried she does the negative stuff way better than the positive "vote for me" stuff. She would have been a fantastic VP pick IMO.

I agree with this although I still think she's the best option (probably because I'm biased). I was watching the OJ American crime story on Netflix, and Marcia Clark reminded me of my first choice, Warren, and just how misogynistic people are in this country. But dammit, that's even more of a reason to demand a female president. No better time to stomp on the throat of sexism.

As far as charisma and likability, Bernie never even combed his hair yet people loved him anyway. Can't Warren just attack the 1% and citizens united all the way to the white house?

And let's not forget that sushy wants liberals to think she can't win, so that's some good evidence I'm right.

      
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