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02-09-2017 , 12:53 PM

#7251

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,065

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Steve Bannon: Not as bad as a terrorist!

I mean they missed "wants to bring down the US government" [tick] [tick]

02-09-2017 , 12:55 PM

#7252

.Alex.

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,672

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

I mean, complete this sentence: Warren will appeal to the sort of voters that swung the election in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania because __________. Note: answer may not contain any reference to policy.

Worth noting that I can complete that sentence for each of the last three Democratic Presidents and cannot complete it for Al Gore, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton.

Because the 57% of people that voted for Bernie in Wisconsin are a lot more likely to turn out for her than Hillary.

02-09-2017 , 12:59 PM

#7253

JacktheDumb

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,427

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

Obviously every right-thinking person thinks Trump should be impeached, and I doubt many people think it's better for him to be assassinated than impeached (it would be much worse). That said, it should be fair game to argue that it would be better for the country or the world if Trump is assassinated than if he is allowed to remain in office.

44% still approve of Trump, this is still enough to get him elected again.

02-09-2017 , 01:05 PM

#7254

spidercrab

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 3,206

Thoughts on Klobuchar? She seemed really appealing on David Axelrod's podcast, but that's my only real exposure to her.

02-09-2017 , 01:09 PM

#7255

JacktheDumb

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,427

Quote:

Originally Posted by dereds

Thatcher was always presented as a strong leader

Can i win the argument by saying the British are a special kind? Elizabeth I and Victoria, they got ruled by strong women so long that they aren't as backwards about it as the rest of the world.

02-09-2017 , 01:10 PM

#7256

dereds

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 16,782

Let's just say they are backwards in different ways.

02-09-2017 , 01:12 PM

#7257

dinopoker

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,437

Even Ben Garrison can't make Trump's disaster of a hairdo look decent.

02-09-2017 , 01:12 PM

#7258

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

It really doesn't matter who runs in 2020 for Democrats. As long as the economy doesn't crash and people keep their 401k plans healthy, the GOP will win again. It's been shown time and time again that the average voter doesn't give a flying **** about anyone other than themselves when it comes to voting. The GOP base needs to be HURT economically in the next 4 years for the Dems to have a shot.

02-09-2017 , 01:13 PM

#7259

Riverman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73,135

McCane gets called out individually by Trump, and STILL won't unload on him?

Dude, you have a life expectancy of like 45 minutes, let it rip!

02-09-2017 , 01:16 PM

#7260

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

McCane gets called out individually by Trump, and STILL won't unload on him?

Dude, you have a life expectancy of like 45 minutes, let it rip!

LOL yea IDK WTF is wrong with McCain. He's been completely neutered by Easy D.

02-09-2017 , 01:16 PM

#7261

dinopoker

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,437

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

The most fitting end would be if he died in a way only Trump could. Like from falling down a sloped walkway or while having a heart attack having sex with some random groupie.

02-09-2017 , 01:20 PM

#7262

Oroku$aki

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 7,063

Autoerotic asphyxiation imo.

02-09-2017 , 01:21 PM

#7263

Riverman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73,135

Drowning in Russian whore piss

02-09-2017 , 01:26 PM

#7264

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

LOL we should get a twitter trend going on it. Make him even more insecure than he already is.

02-09-2017 , 01:26 PM

#7265

JonnyA

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,664

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

I disagree. Many of the Trump voters are hurting right now (either unemployed, or more commonly underemployed) and voted for Trump since he promised to make things better for them. If Trump doesn't improve things for them, I think they will not turn out in the same numbers, even if many don't switch to vote Dem.

02-09-2017 , 01:29 PM

#7266

Louis Cyphre

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11,025

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Let's not go there. Why can't you just wish him impeached?

Maybe someone thinks a premature death sets a better precedent and ensures he can't carry away the spoils. I remember a certain quote about trees and tyrants being quite popular in the US.

02-09-2017 , 01:33 PM

#7267

ctyri

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,488

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe

Glad that's sorted....

Bannon scored the same as Charles Manson. Fox using the kindest grading curve in history.

02-09-2017 , 01:34 PM

#7268

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyA

No, because Trump voters aren't these poor uneducated hillbillies that so many people assume they are.

As compared with most Americans, Trump’s voters are better off. The median household income of a Trump voter so far in the primaries is about $72,000, based on estimates derived from exit polls and Census Bureau data.

That’s lower than the $91,000 median for Kasich voters. But it’s well above the national median household income of about $56,000. It’s also higher than the median income for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders supporters, which is around $61,000 for both.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...lass/83972800/

These are the voters that semi-dabble in the stock market and have jobs that offer 401k plans. These are the voters on Facebook that are FED UP and ANGRY. They think people on welfare need to quit complaining and pull themselves up by the bootstraps. Apparently they didn't learn their lesson back in 2008 and need to get curb-stomped again. Only this time, they'll be 10-15 years older and have less leeway to recover any losses before they retire.

02-09-2017 , 01:36 PM

#7269

Oroku$aki

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 7,063

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oroku$aki

Autoerotic asphyxiation imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Drowning in Russian whore piss

Erotic asphyxiation while being pissed on by Russian whores?

02-09-2017 , 01:37 PM

#7270

Paul McSwizzle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by campfirewest

A centrist who appeals to the middle is the only way Dems can win.

LOL no.

02-09-2017 , 01:39 PM

#7271

Paul McSwizzle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by miajag

so much for the tolerant left imo

Adults are trying to talk though

02-09-2017 , 01:40 PM

#7272

Paul McSwizzle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,531

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

LOL yea IDK WTF is wrong with McCain. He's been completely neutered by Easy D.

Plus he's good through 2022 and is like 100 years old. I don't understand it at all. Should I just jam the cynic button to better get my head around it?

02-09-2017 , 01:46 PM

#7273

JonnyA

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,664

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Trump crushed (compared to prior Rs) in the counties that were least educated - these are the people that largely had/have mediocre paying blue-collar jobs and are mad because they see these jobs disappearing. Education was the strongest predictor of how someone would vote (much stronger than in prior elections, IIRC). They voted for Trump more than a normal R, because he promised to bring these jobs back, if he doesn't do that I think it will be hard for him to get as strong of support from them again.