I am not sure yet, but Warren is not the answer. She is a poor public speaker, an East Coast Liberal, old and Trump or whoever will hammer her on the whole Native American thing. I also don't think she is charismatic at all. In short she is the type of democrat who always seems to struggle on the national level. Her protesting and rabble rousing is going to accomplish exactly nothing as well and so all of the momentum she seemingly has now will be dead and forgotten in 4 years.

To be clear I think Elizabeth Warren is a fine Senator and I would vote for her for president in a heartbeat. I also think standing up and fighting is what everyone should be doing. I just think winning in 4 years will be important to save what is left of this country by then.

The Dems need to nominate someone young, charismatic and with as progressive a platform as is electable.

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Warren sounds deranged, has the baggage of engaging in race-fraud for personal enrichment, is not popular in her own State, advocates policies suited to basket-case socialist countries like Venezuela, is a hypocrite, and did I mention she sounds as grating as Hillary?

I seem to recall that Obama was the most liberal nominee ever.

Warren's not the answer in 2020 and neither is 80 year old Bernie Sanders. Democrats should get behind Booker and Gillibrand.

Did somebody really just use "cuck" non-ironically?

after engaging in Warren related conspiracy theories

Ben Affleck could be a good candidate. He's smart, good looking, and well known.

I'd vote for Warren 2020. She'd be a great candidate. Of course it's still early but I'd love to see her at least enter the primary.

Oh yea TCOT memes!

Well it's early yet.


Seriously who saw the need to put up a chart like that?

Trump's administration may already be the most transparently corrupt in history.

Let's not go there. Why can't you just wish him impeached?

Nobody can take away your dreams

Profuse thanks to whoever nuked kyp's account.

The smile on that guys face must be the ethics adviser's version of a cop with a video camera stumbling on a crime scene with the criminal holding the the bloody knife.

I'd take that. At the moment I settle for some indication that there was anything like the required principle among Republicans.

Obviously every right-thinking person thinks Trump should be impeached, and I doubt many people think it's better for him to be assassinated than impeached (it would be much worse). That said, it should be fair game to argue that it would be better for the country or the world if Trump is assassinated than if he is allowed to remain in office.

Seconded. And cheers for getting rid of the Warren conspiracy nuttiness as well.

When Corpus Christi elected their own Donald Trump
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/02...christi-mayor/

so much for the tolerant left imo

I'm always prepared to argue against tolerance being a requisite component of political discourse

I would assume that a lot people would just not vote for a strong women. Merkel f.e. got elected so many times, because she doesnt come along as threatening to anyone.

But this might just be bull****. Clinton won by 3 million votes. Democrats have win a game that is rigged against them.

Thatcher was always presented as a strong leader

Steve Bannon: Not as bad as a terrorist!

that guy was a complete troll. i've had him on ignore for weeks because of it.