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12-16-2017 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Floorman in Bobby's room is a good analogy, but only if the floorman decided the outcome of every contested hand. This nominee is a floorman who can't even guess at what it means to run it twice or live straddle. He's pretty sure that flushes and straights are poker hands, but he doesn't know exactly what the hands are or which is better.
This actually made me laugh, and is definitely the best analogy. Lol at "Is pretty sure that flushes and straights are poker hands but isn't exactly sure what the hands are or which is better."
12-16-2017 , 12:49 AM
From the Vox article:

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And a study, published in November by researchers Matthew Luttig, Christopher Federico, and Howard Lavine, found that Trump supporters were much more likely to change their views on housing policy based on race. In this study, respondents were randomly assigned “a subtle image of either a black or a white man.” Then, they were asked about views on housing policy.

The researchers found that Trump supporters were much more likely to be impacted by the image of a black man. After the exposure, they were not only less supportive of housing assistance programs, but they also expressed higher levels of anger that some people receive government assistance and were more likely to say that individuals who receive assistance are to blame for their situation.

In contrast, favorability toward Hillary Clinton did not significantly change respondents’ views on any of these issues when primed with racial cues.

“These findings indicate that responses to the racial cue varied as a function of feelings about Donald Trump — but not feelings about Hillary Clinton — during the 2016 presidential election,” the researchers concluded.
That's a nicely designed study. Really only one conclusion you can come to from it. I think it's neat the way that policy grew out of racial priming in a very immediate way. It's exactly what we see in real life. The details of the policy aren't super relevant, what matters is how it's emotionally framed.
12-16-2017 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
If Mueller somehow gets fired, and nothing happens with the Republican congress dismissing it/ sweeping it under the rug...what are the odds of a military coup?

Like none, the military appears to be operating independently of Trump at this point and will probably be happy enough if he stays hands off
12-16-2017 , 12:55 AM
Can we just preemptively exile golfnutt before the inevitable?
12-16-2017 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Those text messages look awful for those investigated Trump. The open hostility towards him is ironically what keeps him surviving.

Absolutely looks like huge bias against him.

GG Trump.
Sure, if you happen to be a complete ****ing idiot... Oh wait just read the screenname
12-16-2017 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Those text messages look awful for those investigated Trump. The open hostility towards him is ironically what keeps him surviving.

Absolutely looks like huge bias against him.

GG Trump.
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The pair also took shots at other politicians, with Strzok calling former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley a “douche.”

Page speculated on Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s sexuality, saying he was “long suspected of being gay.”

The agents also don’t seem to have been fans of Attorney General Eric Holder.

“Oh God, Holder! Turn it off turn it off turn it off!!!!” Strzok wrote when Holder appeared at the Democratic National Convention in July 2016.

“Yeah, I saw him yesterday and booed at the TV,” Page replied.

At a House hearing last week, FBI Director Christopher Wray said he'd seen the texts, but he declined to characterize them or comment on them, saying he wanted to await the outcome of the inspector general's review.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...r-texts-294156

So, the guy who didn't like politicians from both parties and correctly recognized that Trump is an idiot (like many of Trump's top aids) and was fired by a Republican-appointed former FBI director means something/someone is "hugely biased" against Trump?

Can you be more specific about exactly who/what is "hugely biased" against Trump and what should be done about it?

Also, how is that narrative working out? Do you think it's helping Trump? Did you know that Trump's approval in the last few polls is hovering at 33%, registered GOP voters have declined 5% in the last year, and that Alabama just elected a Democratic senator?

Like what are you trying to say in your post? What does "keeps him surviving" mean? That he hasn't been impeached or charged yet? That is approval isn't yet at 25%? Should the deputy AG fire Muller because an FBI agent who formerly worked for Mueller thought Trump is an idiot and a buffoon? Can you be specific?
12-16-2017 , 01:03 AM
Someone named golfnutt being terrible is not a huge surprise. Trump probably got 90% of the golfer vote.
12-16-2017 , 01:06 AM
I am biased against cancer. Unfortunately, doctor's and medical researcher's open hostility towards it is ironically what keeps it surviving.
12-16-2017 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...r-texts-294156



Can you be more specific about exactly who/what is "hugely biased" against Trump and what should be done about it?

Like what are you trying to say in your post? Should the deputy AG fire Muller because an FBI agent who formerly worked for Mueller thought Trump is an idiot and a buffoon? Can you be specific?

It perfectly fits into Trump’s narrative.

You know it means something. You just can’t wrap your head around anything that could possibly vindicate Trump.

Do you know how to decipher if those texts are meaningful?

You have Vanity Fair saying it is meaningless. That doth protest too much.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...-mueller-probe
12-16-2017 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Someone named golfnutt being terrible is not a huge surprise. Trump probably got 90% of the golfer vote.
He already has a damning reputation and body of work in OOT for things that have nothing to do with golf or politics.
12-16-2017 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Like what are you trying to say in your post?
This is the appropriate response to every golfnutt post ever. Just ban or contain him now before he drags every thread into endless pointless derails. ****, even OOT had to contain him
12-16-2017 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
It perfectly fits into Trump’s narrative.

You know it means something. You just can’t wrap your head around anything that could possibly vindicate Trump.

Do you know how to decipher if those texts are meaningful?

You have Vanity Fair saying it is meaningless. That doth protest too much.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...-mueller-probe
Should anyone who has ever said anything critical of (political party) be forbidden from holding government employment when (political party) holds the presidency?

Should the president only be investigated by people sympathetic to him or her?
12-16-2017 , 01:39 AM
I dont think thats how it worked with Bill when they investigated him. If they had emails back then...
12-16-2017 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Should anyone who has ever said anything critical of (political party) be forbidden from holding government employment when (political party) holds the presidency?

Should the president only be investigated by people sympathetic to him or her?


I don’t like FBI agents saying they will do whatever they have to do to ensure a candidate doesn’t win. The problem is exacerbated when said candidate wins. And further when there is an active investigation and that FBI agent plays a role.

It looks bad. And we should all acknowledge it. They also used government property to discuss their personal animosity towards the President.

It is people that are blinded towards their hate that can’t even grant this is a potentially big derail.
12-16-2017 , 01:45 AM
Better yet, can anyone hold a negative opinion of the subject of an investigation they are working on as their job? Prosecutors, detectives...anyone? Only 32% of the population doesn't have a bias against trump and most of them can't spell FBI.

Jfc, golf. I hope to hell you are just bored and trolling since you lost the spotlight in the bad poster thread. I gave you more benefit of the doubt previously.

Unless you are building a future defense against being banned by making everyone think you are an idiot so you can claim bias, gtfo with this ****.
12-16-2017 , 01:46 AM
If they do fire Muller i hope it lights that fire for some mass marches. And leaks. Well the second one might not help the state investigation so maybe not.

Last edited by batair; 12-16-2017 at 01:56 AM.
12-16-2017 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
I don’t like FBI agents saying they will do whatever they have to do to ensure a candidate doesn’t win. The problem is exacerbated when said candidate wins. And further when there is an active investigation and that FBI agent plays a role.

It looks bad. And we should all acknowledge it. They also used government property to discuss their personal animosity towards the President.

It is people that are blinded towards their hate that can’t even grant this is a potentially big derail.
So, you would have him taken off the case and fired? Or just taken off the case? Cause he’s been off the case for months
12-16-2017 , 01:50 AM
You have the Democrats being vociferous that it was inappropriate to release the texts.

Why?

Justice? Privacy? Care?

It helped Trump. Big time.

More proof it was a scandal. Every liberal rag trying to tell us, “Nothing to see folks. Nothing to see.”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...a-scandal.html
12-16-2017 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
If they do fire Muller i hope it lights that fire for some mass marches. And leaks. Well the second one might not help the sate investigation so maybe not.
It's too cold outside for marches; they know exactly what they're doing.
12-16-2017 , 01:53 AM
Guys, FBI agents working on politically sensitive cases shooting the **** about politicians on email is ****ing idiotic. I understand they are professionals and are not actually going to be biased against Trump when push comes to shove. But they have a responsibility to ensure the absence not just of bias, but of the appearance of bias. That they manifestly failed to do.
12-16-2017 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
You have the Democrats being vociferous that it was inappropriate to release the texts.

Why?

Justice? Privacy? Care?

It helped Trump. Big time.

More proof it was a scandal. Every liberal rag trying to tell us, “Nothing to see folks. Nothing to see.”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...a-scandal.html
I suspect you would claim water is dry if every "liberal rag" was shouting that it's wet.
12-16-2017 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
It's too cold outside for marches; they know exactly what they're doing.
Its Washington so id be warming up. But yeah you are probably right. An American spring?
12-16-2017 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Guys, FBI agents working on politically sensitive cases shooting the **** about politicians on email is ****ing idiotic. I understand they are professionals and are not actually going to be biased against Trump when push comes to shove. But they have a responsibility to ensure the absence not just of bias, but of the appearance of bias. That they manifestly failed to do.
From a WaPo story - and I've paid attention to this for ~5 minutes so maybe I don't know everything but it kinda sounds like this covers it - it's because they're dumb dip****s trying to cover up their affair that this is even a thing:

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Two senior FBI officials who texted each other about President Trump and Hillary Clinton relied on work phones to try to hide their romance from a spouse and made the bureau’s probe of Clinton’s private email server their cover story for being in such close contact, according to people familiar with the matter.
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Had Page and Strzok used personal phones instead, people close to case say, it’s unlikely their text messages would have come to the FBI’s attention.
12-16-2017 , 02:02 AM
The agents knew they were up to no good. They are using government property (ours) to disparage government officials. Shady.

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...nvestigations/

***One of the texts also suggests that both knew they should be careful when discussing Clinton. In April 2016, Page texted "you say we text on that phone when we talk about Hillary because it can't be traced."***
12-16-2017 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
it's because they're dumb dip****s trying to cover up their affair that this is even a thing:
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
The agents knew they were up to no good. They are using government property (ours) to disparage government officials. Shady.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

      
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