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12-08-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee
I'm 29 and am more liberal now than when I was 20
Same though I'm 32.

My 20 year old self would probably be a Trump supporter.
12-08-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
Boomers have always been terrible people. Somehow people think they were liberal because they did drugs and ****ed a lot, and because they were draft dodgers.
The hippies were only a small subset of the Boomers. Most of them were squares who would grow up to become deplorables.
12-08-2017 , 11:31 AM
Add me to the list of "more liberal now than when I was 20" (will be 39 next week)

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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
Isn't the idea that people's political views are shaped in their 20's, and then pretty static after that? So, the 45-64 demographic that loves Trump right now are people who began their interest in politics during Reagan.

I'm trying very hard not to think about the voters who are experiencing their formative political years right now.
Hopefully it will result in a full scale rejection of the GOP.

Reagan had the support of those in their 20s (and every other age group). Trump does not. At all.
12-08-2017 , 11:50 AM
This morning, he's trying the ALL CAPS strategy of trying to convince people to vote for an objectively horrible human being.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...49296389251072
12-08-2017 , 11:56 AM
Love the intentional or not “bad on Crime” dog whistle. Jones was the prosecutor that finally got kkk members for bombing a black church and killing black children. Bad on the kinda crime you think is committed by decent people.
12-08-2017 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
Isn't the idea that people's political views are shaped in their 20's, and then pretty static after that? So, the 45-64 demographic that loves Trump right now are people who began their interest in politics during Reagan.

I'm trying very hard not to think about the voters who are experiencing their formative political years right now.
As awval pointed out, Carter won with the youngest demo. That group just voted for a Nazi unless it's all because of Trump crushing among people who didn't vote at 18 but do vote now.

At any rate the whole thing is horrendously vague and ignores any complexity with what is liberal, conservative, progressive, left, right etc.

The youngest people now hate Trump. The future would be fine if the damage done weren't already so bad.
12-08-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
You can’t get a lot of the white working class vote and the black vote for obvious reason, so this idea is DOA.
I don't necessarily think this is true.

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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
I would lay the blame for Trump mostly on the millennials. They knew what was at stake and they didn't show up to vote.
Yes, blame the people who didn't vote for him, makes sense.

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Originally Posted by microbet
If people don't get more conservative as they age, and the young vote more liberal, how come the president is a Nazi?
Electoral college.

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Originally Posted by raradevils
Stereo typing is never a good thing, like ever.
I dunno, it's easier than mono typing. Also, while I don't agree that all boomers are terrible people, you are clearly a terrible person and an even worse poster.
12-08-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Stereo typing is never a good thing, like ever.
Maybe you guys could help dispel the stereotype by taking responsibility for how ****ed up the world became under your watch and try to do right by your children in the time you have left.
12-08-2017 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You’re suspect
Yeah we need to see that guy's papers.
12-08-2017 , 12:09 PM
LOLLLLL blaming millennials for trump. spoken like a true boomer/boomer-lite aka Gen X. gfy moron, can't wait til your generation dies off
12-08-2017 , 12:11 PM
They really are just the absolute worst. Narcissistic, selfish, hypocritical, intolerant, greedy, shameless pieces of garbage.
12-08-2017 , 12:16 PM
maybe younger people would show up to vote (which they did) more if your party didn't write ridiculous, illegal voting laws that disproportionately target the young/poor/ethnic communities. or maybe they'd vote more if they heard some other message from the older generation other than "we're taking all your safety nets, your birth control, your education, your planet's health, and btw get a job you lazy bum."

oh yea, and it's our fault. just ****ing incredible.
12-08-2017 , 12:16 PM
Many of them. Certainly not all of them.

These people for example are mostly boomers

12-08-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee
I'm 29 and am more liberal now than when I was 20
I'm 36 and have moved farther left pretty much every year of my adult life.
12-08-2017 , 12:20 PM


dammit
12-08-2017 , 12:23 PM
Seems to me like young people growing up today (millennials and whatever we name the generation under them) are generally far more empathetic and less selfish than generations before them. There are certainly pockets that like Trump and they seem to be pretty vocal but overall I have a lot of hope for the future - things like being anti-LGBT will become non-starters soon enough. Blaming them from Trump is nonsense, people like Rara and awval are too blame if anything.

Edit: why can’t I click embedded tweets in Tapatalk?
12-08-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
Isn't the idea that people's political views are shaped in their 20's, and then pretty static after that? So, the 45-64 demographic that loves Trump right now are people who began their interest in politics during Reagan.

I'm trying very hard not to think about the voters who are experiencing their formative political years right now.
What I think does change as one gets older is responsiveness to social pressure or perceived social pressure. I no longer feel the need to censor myself to appease the dumbassery of those listening, so I permit myself to make outloud arguments that I used to keep to myself, or to openly question the premises of what I have always apparently taken for granted. This is sometimes perceived by idiots as being more conservative (skepticism and analysis of any kind tend to be badly received by idiots particularly when the conclusions, or even simply the questions, conflict with their presuppositions) even though my thinking has clearly (to me) evolved in the opposite direction.
12-08-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Maybe you guys could help dispel the stereotype by taking responsibility for how ****ed up the world became under your watch and try to do right by your children in the time you have left.
Berlin wall fell under our watch if that was terrible for the world how so?

I've done right by my children and help set them up for life.
12-08-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by d10
That's not the reason why they won't sit out. Do you think the Clinton's themselves would benefit more from staying in politics or getting out? Lol at thinking their top priority is the country or even the Democratic Party.
So what is their top priority then?
12-08-2017 , 12:27 PM
Protectionism is a left wing idea, free trade is right wing historically. Somehow, the Republican party has switched to almost being bad at everything including things that are historically right wing ideas and some of the deepest beliefs of the party.
12-08-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Stereo typing is never a good thing, like ever.
This ****ing guy
12-08-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Interesting defense

This will be the party line defense if Mueller recommends an OoJ charge against Trump imo.

Then their rank and file can handwave away a class A felony while talking ad naseum about how important it is to go after people who commit misdemeanor visa violations.
12-08-2017 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Berlin wall fell under our watch if that was terrible for the world how so?

I've done right by my children and help set them up for life.
Do you have any examples of good things the boomer generation has done that didn't involve "defeating" a foreign enemy?
12-08-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Many of them. Certainly not all of them.

These people for example are mostly boomers

No, they aren't. That was 1963. The oldest Boomers at the time were still teenagers, and as a generation they had very little to do with the civil rights movement.
12-08-2017 , 12:44 PM
The youth is significantly less white than current national demographics...

      
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