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12-06-2017 , 03:46 PM

#69751

Matty Lice

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Not related to Trump but this may be the greatest reply on Twitter. LOL. For anyone that doesn't know, Rupert Murdoch's home was caught in the CA wildfires.

12-06-2017 , 04:24 PM

#69752

TheNewT50

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,009

Quote:

Originally Posted by 57 On Red

The US is now in violation of UN Security Council Resolution 478 (August 1980, passed 14-0, USA abstaining).

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unisp...2560DF0065FDDB

Trump probably didn't even realize this. The opportunity to violate a UN Security Council Resolution while pissing off the entire ME and infuriating liberals at home has got to be the biggest no-brainer of his administration.

12-06-2017 , 05:08 PM

#69753

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

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Just a reminder that the Russian Sanctions law from this summer had an October deadline for Trump that he has blown by and apparently nobody is going to do anything about it

12-06-2017 , 05:19 PM

#69754

simplicitus

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Quote:

The House on Wednesday rejected an effort to impeach President Trump in a vote that nonetheless pointed to growing support on the left for driving the president out of office.

In a 364-58 vote, lawmakers tabled an impeachment resolution from Rep. Al Green (D-Texas). Every Republican voted with a majority of Democrats to turn away the resolution, while four Democrats voted present.

Yet despite the objections of their leadership, 58 Democrats voted in support of the resolution — an unexpectedly high tally, representing nearly one-third of the caucus. The group included lawmakers who haven’t necessarily been vocal about supporting impeachment.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/36...-impeach-trump

12-06-2017 , 05:20 PM

#69755

Dominic

Tripod

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12-06-2017 , 05:34 PM

#69756

Max Cut

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nice

12-06-2017 , 05:37 PM

#69757

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simplicitus

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/36...-impeach-trump

JFC Dems are spineless.

12-06-2017 , 05:44 PM

#69758

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

JFC Dems are spineless.

Meh. Don't see the advantage in this kind of vote at all yet. Play the long game.

12-06-2017 , 06:05 PM

#69759

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Meh. Don't see the advantage in this kind of vote at all yet. Play the long game.

Yeah, no party putting forth a bunch of sham votes will ever take power.

12-06-2017 , 06:08 PM

#69760

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Yeah, no party putting forth a bunch of sham votes will ever take power.

You can justify literally anything with that take ("no party keeping sexual accusers around will ever take power, guess Dems need to stick with Franken"?). There's more work involved to show that sham votes are the reason Dems will take power, or whatever you're trying to claim.

12-06-2017 , 06:13 PM

#69761

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

JFC Dems are spineless.

58 Dems with spines. I can't find the full list. It doesn't seem to be up on congress.gov yet.

12-06-2017 , 06:21 PM

#69762

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Meh. Don't see the advantage in this kind of vote at all yet. Play the long game.

Well, if they think it's a dumb symbolic vote and a waste of time they had the option of not voting instead of affirmatively supporting Trump. We talk a lot about how the Republicans are never going to impeach, but what will it take to even count on all the non-Republicans? Every day so far the answer has been a little more. I guess wait for Mueller, but he should have been impeached on emoluments on November 9th, 2016.

12-06-2017 , 06:29 PM

#69763

DrChesspain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I guess wait for Mueller, but he should have been impeached on emoluments on November 9th, 2016.

Can a President-elect even be impeached?

12-06-2017 , 06:31 PM

#69764

Chips Ahoy

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The advantages are clear. If you ask once, a bunch of democrats will say no. They will get feedback from people who want yes. Each time you ask you have a chance to convert some. The point of the votes is to move internal consensus. To normalize impeachment.

12-06-2017 , 06:33 PM

#69765

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DrChesspain

Can a President-elect even be impeached?

Ok, January 20th or w/e. But it seems like the first rule for impeachment is that there are no rules for impeachment, so maybe.

12-06-2017 , 06:33 PM

#69766

prana

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lolflynn

12-06-2017 , 07:04 PM

#69767

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Meh. Don't see the advantage in this kind of vote at all yet.

You go back to your constituents and tell them you opposed a widely despised presidency? What's to be gained by not taking a moral stance here even if it's just a symbolic vote?

Dems will be triangulating themselves all the way to prison camps.

12-06-2017 , 07:20 PM

#69768

danspartan

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,851

I've heard the argument (from my newly ex-boss) that because they only charged Flynn with 1 relatively minor charge that means there is no there there

Today's news just further proves how wrong that is.

Of course, the guy had not heard anything about Moore being banned from a mall.

12-06-2017 , 07:30 PM

#69769

Clovis8

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Quote:

Today we call for the voices of tolerance to prevail over the voices of hate.

Donald J. Trump
December 6, 2017

Quote:

I think I might be gay.

Hugh Hefner

12-06-2017 , 07:36 PM

#69770

ScreaminAsian

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are you asking which obviously fake statement is more believable?

the bottom one

12-06-2017 , 08:09 PM

#69771

JordanIB

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...cial-security/

Pay up, olds and poor. We got a debt problem that just got $1.5T worse to fix!

Quote:

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday that congressional Republicans will aim next year to reduce spending on both federal health care and anti-poverty programs, citing the need to reduce America's deficit.

12-06-2017 , 08:12 PM

#69772

dth123451

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Uh, olds aren't going to pay. They are going to cut kids' and poors health care.

12-06-2017 , 08:16 PM

#69773

JordanIB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dth123451

Uh, olds aren't going to pay. They are going to cut kids' and poors health care.

Quote:

Ryan said that*he believes he has begun convincing President Trump in their private conversations about the need to rein in Medicare, the federal health program that primarily insures the elderly.

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“I think the president is understanding that choice and competition works everywhere in health care, especially in Medicare,” Ryan said. "...This has been my big thing for many, many years. I think it's the biggest entitlement we've got to reform.”

Perhaps it’s just a tactic to make themselves look generous wen they only rape the poor and children.