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12-05-2017 , 04:18 PM

#69651

AllTheCheese

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

*popcorn*

Link?

12-05-2017 , 04:20 PM

#69652

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John McCain tweets "74 more followers to 3M, spread the word!" and loses 30,000 followers from people angry about the tax bill

(seems like he's since gained roughly that many back, must have reached the DERPOSPHERE)

12-05-2017 , 04:20 PM

#69653

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Money is right about that. The steps are roughly: Jerusalem made capital of Israel -----> temple rebuilt -----> entire Middle East attacks Jerusalem, leading to world war -----> Jesus comes back -----> Jesus peaces out again with the evangelicals in tow -----> tribulation

I may have left out some steps but that's the basic skeleton of the idea

You forgot a huge step. This is what evangelical Christians expect and pray for, and what some of them work every day to accomplish.

12-05-2017 , 04:21 PM

#69654

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Originally Posted by microbet

I just don't see people who really believe that acting the way they do. It's not the same belief in the way I believe I'll fall if I walk off a cliff. It's an assertion of belonging to a group is all. Maybe that's enough to advocate for policy that is in line with revelation, but if they could clearly see that policy inconvenience them, they'd drop it. Not one in a hundred of these people would walk 20 miles (or even try) to push a button that made Jerusalem the capital of Israel. And even the people who could do that walk would never do it alone, without the eyes of their Christian community on them.

You're expecting lol human behavior to rationally complement lol human beliefs.

Have you read Think, Fast and Slow yet? It really needs to be on your list if you haven't.

12-05-2017 , 04:26 PM

#69655

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Link?

http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-...d-tape-2017-12

12-05-2017 , 04:26 PM

#69656

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Trump signed another six-month waiver re: moving the embassy to Jerusalem, so it's not happening

lol

edit: Saudi King told Trump he shouldn't do it

12-05-2017 , 04:55 PM

#69657

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Originally Posted by Matty Lice

LOL Trumpkins forever and ever.

Wow this is too perfect. Just the dumbest of the dumb.

12-05-2017 , 04:57 PM

#69658

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Jay Suckalow claims the Deutche Bank subpoena story is FAKE NEWS

12-05-2017 , 05:07 PM

#69659

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

in my mind, trump is more than 50:50 to resign in the 2018 lame duck if the democrats ride a big enough blue wave that it puts trump within impeachment range

i think most likely is starting a nuclear war with north korea and suspending elections indefinitely. like in spain, some states will have elections anyway but trump will deny them as legitimate

and certainly a saddam hussein type of trial where trump stands up and yells at the judge that the judge is under arrest and the trial is illegal is of course still possible

Trump is a coward like Hitler. Making public appearances in front of supporters and accusing opponents of nothing, but when it becomes obvious that things will end in failure they both will become silent and nowhere to be found. He'll probably make some last ditch plea to his supporters to do some stuff, but then when that proves futile he'll commit suicide during the trial.

12-05-2017 , 05:08 PM

#69660

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

tell us more about how the Republicans in Congress are going to retroactively confiscate our 401k

tell us about when I said anything of the sort

12-05-2017 , 05:18 PM

#69661

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Or Russian hackers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Trump signed another six-month waiver re: moving the embassy to Jerusalem, so it's not happening

lol

edit: Saudi King told Trump he shouldn't do it

It's ridiculous how easily controlled our President is. I just envision the Saudi King walking up to Trump saying, "Nice hotel you're planning to build here such a shame if something were to happen to it." and Trump doing whatever the king says.

12-05-2017 , 05:20 PM

#69662

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4

In some ways, Trump is far more delusional than Hitler ever was.

12-05-2017 , 05:20 PM

#69663

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The ORB hath spake.

12-05-2017 , 05:21 PM

#69664

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

one *fewer*

Best post in the thread

12-05-2017 , 05:22 PM

#69665

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lol, this is real. Awesome.

12-05-2017 , 05:55 PM

#69666

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U.S. to Recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital, Trump Says, Alarming Middle East Leaders

President Trump told Israeli and Arab leaders on Tuesday that he plans to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, a symbolically fraught move that would upend decades of American policy and upset efforts to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

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Originally Posted by 57 On Red

France, Germany, the EU, Turkey, Saudi, Jordan and others including the Palestinians have already told him it's a bad idea and even Fox News admits it could 'turn deadly'.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...roversial.html

Fox also notes, correctly, that this stuff is just done to appease the right-wing 'Christian' base.

This Nance dude is creeping me out.

12-05-2017 , 06:05 PM

#69667

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People will be pissed and it's a ****ing terrible decision, but I don't think there will all of a sudden be violence everywhere.

Everyone said the same thing when bin Laden was killed. Most people just want to live their lives man.

12-05-2017 , 06:12 PM

#69668

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Money is right about that. The steps are roughly: Jerusalem made capital of Israel -----> temple rebuilt -----> Jesus comes back -----> Jesus peaces out again with the evangelicals in tow -----> tribulation

I may have left out some steps but that's the basic skeleton of the idea

I went out shopping with my mother-in-law this afternoon and asked her about that plan. She's extremely religious. Church all the time, praying for everything, youngest kid's in a Catholic HS atm. It wasn't a wise decision. She looked at me like I was nuts. Thanks a lot!

I did learn that he's coming back some day though. That was what I learned today

12-05-2017 , 06:17 PM

#69669

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Originally Posted by champstark

Apparently the US Consulate is taking it seriously

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/U...ncement-517095

Quote:

The US Consulate General in Jerusalem issued a security warning to US residents in the city on Tuesday, with an impending 'day of rage' announced by Palestinians in response to US President Donald Trump's phone calls announcing his intentions to move the embassy to Jerusalem.

"With widespread calls for demonstrations beginning December 6 in Jerusalem and the West Bank, U.S. government employees and their family members are not permitted until further notice to conduct personal travel in Jerusalem’s Old City and in the West Bank, to include Bethlehem and Jericho," the notice reads. US citizens are informed to avoid areas with "crowds crowds have gathered and where there is increased police and/or military presence."

12-05-2017 , 06:50 PM

#69670

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Originally Posted by zikzak

IF Trump is to go down, I imagine it would be something like:

NY state files RICO case against entire Trump organization, based on info from Mueller.

Lots of Trump associates and family members get arrested, he can't pardon any of them.

Some start to give up the goods on Donny and/or corroborate NY state charges.

In that environment, I think even the current Congress would be forced to impeach.

Even if all of this would not force his removal, it's difficult to see how this old, fat, rageaholic would manage to hold it together and not drop dead of a heart attack due to the stress of seeing his loved ones heading off to prison and his entire empire crumbling.

12-05-2017 , 06:57 PM

#69671

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LOL Arny is probably right. It would be par for the course as far as this Admin goes.

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12-05-2017 , 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Isn’t the notion that Trump will try to fire Muller premised on the idea that Trump has some reason to fear Muller, ie, that Muller could in some way harm Trump? If Congress won’t impeach Trump, and I think we are all in agreement there, and Trump’s support is immune to any kind of factual revelations of malfeasance, I thought no we are all pretty much in agreement there, too, then what can Muller do to Trump? I guess the only possible thing is prosecute his family members, maybe go after the Trump organization? But Trump can pardon them, so, we are back to Muller being toothless. The only other possibility seems to be that Trump just gets upset for some reason and doesn’t have the intelligence/discipline to play the long game and he rage-fires him. I certainly can’t rule that out, but it doesn’t seem as likely people seem to think.

This argument is too cute by half. Everyone keeps forgetting that Schneiderman was reported to be working with Mueller. There's a reason for that. If you think that Trump's family members haven't committted seriousl state level financial crimes (that are not pardonable) then you aren't paying attention.

12-05-2017 , 07:06 PM

#69673

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...y-federal-land

Oh, it's pretty clear "special interests" = "hippy dippy liberals who like to visit national parks," and "public use" = "rich people who are also members of the public who would like to exploit the land to make money."

12-05-2017 , 07:07 PM

#69674

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

You're expecting lol human behavior to rationally complement lol human beliefs.

Have you read Think, Fast and Slow yet? It really needs to be on your list if you haven't.

I don't expect people to be rational, or maybe the bigger problem is just people not being honest with themselves or others. I just don't respect the word "belief" when it doesn't really mean you believe something and it just means you're choosing to pretend that you believe it. More or less.

I haven't read it and just put it on hold at the library.