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02-07-2017 , 08:19 PM

#6651

BigRedChief

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfsh

Maybe the DOJ is trying to sink the EO by having a fool argue their case.

I'm no lawyer nor listened to oral arguments in court before but, for my layman's ears, he was getting owned.

02-07-2017 , 08:19 PM

#6652

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

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I was referring to my criticism of the lawyers, not yours. I know you are a lawyer who's got game.

02-07-2017 , 08:21 PM

#6653

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOL33

People are overly reacting to what is a temporary restriction on 3rd world countries nobody would step foot in much less be overly enthralled about anyone from there moving here

Couple questions.

Are you aware the vetting is already pretty extreme and takes up to 1 or 2 years? This question is about why it had to be implemented instantly when it was obviously going to **** up people's lives.

You down with handcuffing a 5-yr old? This question is about the environment created by all of trumps hyperbolic fear mongering.

02-07-2017 , 08:23 PM

#6654

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOL33

People are overly reacting to what is a temporary restriction on 3rd world countries nobody would step foot in much less be overly enthralled about anyone from there moving here

Just think, whenever your ancestors came over there were ****heads like you saying the same thing about them.

02-07-2017 , 08:26 PM

#6655

ScreaminAsian

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russian agent michael flynn is altering trump's official security briefings and steve bannon is gaslighting trump, who has been getting loopier for years. they were supposed to lose the election and start trump tv for russia and profit, but now they're president! how far can they take this???

02-07-2017 , 08:30 PM

#6656

CPHoya

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

I was referring to my criticism of the lawyers, not yours. I know you are a lawyer who's got game.

My bad, misunderstood your post and I owe you an apology. I apologize.

02-07-2017 , 08:33 PM

#6657

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,224

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

GTFO here w/ your racist agenda. I would be honored to share my neighborhood w/ immigrants.

I've been wanting to go to Iran for a long time. Hopefully Trump doesn't strand me there.

02-07-2017 , 08:34 PM

#6658

BigRedChief

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

That was cool.

"When you have 30 minutes to argue and spend 15 minutes stuttering, that's not a good day at the courthouse," attorney says of DOJ lawyer.

02-07-2017 , 08:35 PM

#6659

DeroDeniro

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,273

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOL33

People are overly reacting to what is a temporary restriction on 3rd world countries nobody would step foot in much less be overly enthralled about anyone from there moving here

Well if it makes you feel better, I won't overly react to your inevitable ban from this forum.

02-07-2017 , 08:36 PM

#6660

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

Couple questions.

Are you aware the vetting is already pretty extreme and takes up to 1 or 2 years?

No. BMOL will be incapable of remembering that. Just like how they cannot process that mandates were originally a Republican idea. Some facts simply cannot bear purchase in the conservative mind.

02-07-2017 , 08:40 PM

#6661

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

Dude your freaking me out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

"When you have 30 minutes to argue and spend 15 minutes stuttering, that's not a good day at the courthouse," attorney says of DOJ lawyer.

Lol own job.

02-07-2017 , 08:50 PM

#6662

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

Not really Trump specifically but it seems like a decent window into the mindset of Trump America.

Take it away, Congressman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0c1284f28854c

White people attacks are one-off, ISIS is existential threat.

Alternative fact: Gabby Giffords is not dead.

Just the best people. Muslims you stop on sight because of their Muslimyness means they will explode you and threaten everything you have, including your sovereignty. They are super human in their abilities, except to be stopped, which is actually easy due to common sense solutions, you just don't let them into the country, maybe profile them. Extraordinary in their ability to cause havoc but so simple to prevent their evil. Got it.

White people terrorists OTOH are just an unstoppable undetectable force, no one can ever predict them, literally we remain powerless to do anything, no one has a clue. But whatever, they're all one-offs, no big deal.

TIWRAB

Well, the way things are going it appears he's right about ISIS being an existential threat, just for reasons too ironic for him to understand.

02-07-2017 , 08:51 PM

#6663

aoFrantic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

We're basically watching the sequel to the producers where they're stuck doing a ****ty play they hate doing for 4 years and run their immediate success into the ground.

02-07-2017 , 09:04 PM

#6664

LordJvK

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Interesting this:

https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/...im-immigration

This is a Chatham House poll of 10 countries in Europe. 54% actually agreed with Donald Trump's travel ban.

Take a look that this:

02-07-2017 , 09:13 PM

#6665

fatkid

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All further migration of brown skinned devils that are gonna get ya should be stopped.

02-07-2017 , 09:15 PM

#6666

Melkerson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Csaba

Interview here

http://www.mediaite.com/online/are-w...ted-interview/

Tapper did well, but this wasn't nearly the beatdown that I was expecting based on comments here.

Conway's strategy seems pretty simple. Her goal is to simply talk as much as possible about anything just to suck up time. The more she is talking the less the other guy is, so there are fewer issues that she needs to address and she just gets more screen time to push her agenda. I guess the only art is to make it constantly seem like you'll eventually get to the point without ever actually getting there. Tapper, et all need to cut her off more like the Fox dudes.

02-07-2017 , 09:22 PM

#6667

stinkubus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

I do worry about being in a bubble sometimes so I actively try to find intelligent voices from the right, especially as I consider myself right on many financial issues.

The problem is I can't find them. Is there a William F. Buckley of today I am missing? Are there any intelligent voices supporting Trump?

There has to be some reasonable voices from the right. Can anyone help me find them?

Dude, Buckley was a MASSIVE racist and basically got his start writing pro segregation screeds that claimed negroes were inherently inferior to whites.

02-07-2017 , 09:33 PM

#6668

suzzer99

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02-07-2017 , 09:37 PM

#6669

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BMOL33

People are overly reacting to what is a temporary restriction on 3rd world countries nobody would step foot in much less be overly enthralled about anyone from there moving here

I'd rather have them than you.

02-07-2017 , 09:40 PM

#6670

suzzer99

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Syria was also a nice place to visit 10 years ago. I remember a Bizarre Foods ep where he went to Syria.

02-07-2017 , 09:41 PM

#6671

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LordJvK

Do the people polled agree with a ban on all Muslims, or just a ban on the six countries Trump picked?

If the latter, why those countries in particular?

02-07-2017 , 09:46 PM

#6672

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

Do the people polled agree with a ban on all Muslims, or just a ban on the six countries Trump picked?

If the latter, why those countries in particular?

Dude don't encourage him.

02-07-2017 , 09:48 PM

#6673

aoFrantic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

Do the people polled agree with a ban on all Muslims, or just a ban on the six countries Trump picked?

If the latter, why those countries in particular?

It was an online survey that somehow managed to get equal amounts of people in all 10 of those countries despite never telling us their methodology. It basically looks like a study that I bs'd in a first year stats source because it was worth 5%.

02-07-2017 , 09:53 PM

#6674

LordJvK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

Do the people polled agree with a ban on all Muslims, or just a ban on the six countries Trump picked?

If the latter, why those countries in particular?

Looking at the wording, it seems like all.