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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

11-05-2017 , 09:40 PM


Above all else it's important to remember Trump, like every other idiot right wing grampa, believes that they personally are smart while objectively not knowing a goddamn thing about the actual world.
11-05-2017 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerchris
Do you believe that Trump himself participated in money laundering?

Manafort, maybe. Flynn, who knows.

Kushner and Trump Jr., doubtful but possible on RICO, but Trump?

he was too busy pissing people off at rallies
I'm somewhat unclear where you're going with this. You're conceding that Trump staffed his ENTIRE CAMPAIGN with criminals, but don't investigate that, because it's the single worst case scenario is unlikely?
11-05-2017 , 09:51 PM
There was no reason to have a special prosecutor to go after Trump.

Congress could have handled Russian collusion and routine investigations should have gone after Manafort and Flynn, if they were believed to be bad actors based on Congressional investigation.

Special Prosecutors just lean on people to find something beyond their mandate.
11-05-2017 , 09:52 PM
We've got a live one
11-05-2017 , 09:52 PM
Basically, Mueller is not investigating Russian collusion, but anything Trump ever did or ever said and everyone he ever met.

Ken Starr did the same. Was inappropriate then, inappropriate now.

No reason Congress could not have run appropriate hearings on Russian collusion.
11-05-2017 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerchris
Do you believe that Trump himself participated in money laundering?
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...beach-mansion/
Rybolovlev added that he didn’t plan to live in the United States.

Nonetheless, he went ahead and paid an exceptionally high, $50 million premium to Trump, then a real estate tycoon and reality TV host, for a property he never sought to live in, not even on a part-time basis.


Abso-****ing-lutely.
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Originally Posted by pokerchris
No reason Congress could not have run appropriate hearings on Russian collusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Nunes
Devin Gerald Nunes (born October 1, 1973) is an American politician who has served as the U.S. Representative for California's 22nd congressional district since 2003. A Republican, he serves as chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and served as a member of President Trump's transition team. In early 2017, he was criticized for his alleged bias in a Congressional investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. On April 6, 2017, he temporarily stepped aside from leading that investigation while the Office of Congressional Ethics investigates charges that he improperly disclosed classified information to the public, but he remains committee chairman for other purposes.


No reason at all.
11-05-2017 , 09:55 PM
Wait, did Trump really call Japanese "samurai warriors?"
11-05-2017 , 09:56 PM
I suppose, I could be inclined to agree that since Trump may have compromised Comey investigations could not run normal course, but should not have impacted Congressional investigations.

Drain the swamp, I suppose.

But, if the investigation goes to back child support payments Trump didn't pay Marla Maples to influence a hearing, I will be disappointed.
11-05-2017 , 09:56 PM
Our new friend seems to be forgetting that republican administrations are frequently staffed and run by blatant criminals. Yes, the ken Starr thing was ludicrous, but trump isn’t guilty of getting a blow job. Trump isn’t guilty of being a democrat. He's being investigated by a bunch of republicans. Because he's frequently been a criminal in the past and likely was on the campaign trail. (I kid, we know for certain they were criminals on the campaign trail, but the GOP is staffed by people like Chris who like to pretend republicans breaking the law ain’t no big deal)

It would be nice if trump ever had to own up to bribing the Florida attorney general, but somehow I doubt that’s in the scope of this investigation.
11-05-2017 , 09:57 PM
Haha, I would guess that he meant Samari Warriors as a compliment
11-05-2017 , 09:59 PM
I am sure there is a ton of stuff on corruption to get Trump when he was running a Casino business.

it is not a pretty industry!

If that does exist, though, I am surprised the Jeb Bush campaign did not unleash holy hell on his attempts to get licensed in Florida.
11-05-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerchris
There was no reason to have a special prosecutor to go after Trump.

Congress could have handled Russian collusion and routine investigations should have gone after Manafort and Flynn, if they were believed to be bad actors based on Congressional investigation.
Congress doesn't investigate crimes. Trump fired the FBI director when he was investigating Flynn.

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Special Prosecutors just lean on people to find something beyond their mandate.
1) What are you basing this on?

2) Even if it was true what's the problem with that? Is solving crimes bad now?

3) Literally you don't know what a Special Prosecutor is or why the concept exists lol you're just worried about Daddy
11-05-2017 , 10:00 PM
Haha, probably cause Jeb Bush was involved in dirty business there, too!

Little Marco would have been innocent, though. don't think he was a Senator when Trump was cajoling people.
11-05-2017 , 10:01 PM
Basing it on Ken Starr and every special prosecutor.

If Mueller will limit investigation solely to Russian collusion, I would be fine with it. But, not the way it will go.
11-05-2017 , 10:01 PM
Trump should take after the Samurai and commit Seppuku.
11-05-2017 , 10:02 PM
And obstruction charge on Comey. That should also be investigated and considered.
11-05-2017 , 10:02 PM
This dude is literally making an argument where a premise is that Donald Trump and his associates should get away with crimes and it's unfair if the police catch them.
11-05-2017 , 10:02 PM
Going to be a big waste of time.

Trump Jr., Kushner and Turmp will be fine.

Manafort, Flynn and some others, probably in big trouble.
11-05-2017 , 10:04 PM
Fly, let's put up a special prosecutor on DNC corruption then.

Even though they lost and no one cares and should be internal DNC issue and something the Democrats need to fix, let's just put up a special prosecutor to investigate Benrie, Hillary, Donna Brazille, Podesta's and everyone else whoever touched that corrupt organization and find anything wrong they ever did.

if you are okay with that, let Mueller go after Trump.

DRAIN THE SWAMP!
11-05-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerchris
Going to be a big waste of time.

Trump Jr., Kushner and Turmp will be fine.

Manafort, Flynn and some others, probably in big trouble.
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The United States Department of Justice (DOJ), also known as the Justice Department, is a federal executive department of the U.S. government, responsible for the enforcement of the law and administration of justice in the United States, equivalent to the justice or interior ministries of other countries
Sounds like not a waste of time to me.

chris, what's it like knowing your political beliefs are why people will laugh at your children?
11-05-2017 , 10:06 PM
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Fly, let's put up a special prosecutor on DNC corruption then.
That would be inappropriate because of that issue where you don't know what the phrase "special prosecutor" means(ya ain't named collegechris for a reason, boy), but if someone alleges that a crime occurred, by all means, investigate it. I don't think anyone has done so with the DNC stuff.

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Even though they lost and no one cares and should be internal DNC issue and something the Democrats need to fix, let's just put up a special prosecutor to investigate Benrie, Hillary, Donna Brazille, Podesta's and everyone else whoever touched that corrupt organization and find anything wrong they ever did.
Do you have like a list of people who you think should have immunity from criminal investigation? Tony Podesta absolutely is in some really dirty **** and he defended should get investigated.
11-05-2017 , 10:06 PM
omg somebody ban the redundant babbling spambot already
11-05-2017 , 10:08 PM
Donna Brazille indicates a crime occurred.

I hope Congress at least speaks with her off the record.

And Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton on tarmac. No special prosecutor for that.
11-05-2017 , 10:08 PM
This has to be at least temp-ban worthy, right?

Last edited by Loki; 11-05-2017 at 10:12 PM. Reason: Yup, so don’t quote it
11-05-2017 , 10:08 PM
Yup, ban someone for having a different opinion.

Pure far left strategy. Don't let them be heard, even if they are being civil and polite.

Beautiful!

      
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