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02-07-2017 , 07:39 PM

#6601

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

Take it away, Congressman:

Quote:

The Marxist, who took her life, a leftist guy

I don't know all that much about Loughner, but I remember him being ardently pro-life and deeply concerned about fiat currency. He was, clearly, also profoundly mentally ill, but I'm not sure where 'left-wing' comes in. Not that it matters in particular.

02-07-2017 , 07:40 PM

#6602

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Standing the governments best argument?

maybe but the DOJ lawyer didn't really put it that way

02-07-2017 , 07:41 PM

#6603

iron81

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Do people stuck overseas and haven't arrived in the US have some kind of insurmountable hurdle getting into court besides logistics of finding an attorney? Why did it take Washington stepping in to get those people relief?

02-07-2017 , 07:43 PM

#6604

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

To get a TRO/injunciton? Likely. To argue on the merits? Unlikely.

02-07-2017 , 07:45 PM

#6605

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

maybe but the DOJ lawyer didn't really put it that way

Thanks.

02-07-2017 , 07:47 PM

#6606

seattlelou

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Clifton a rightie?

02-07-2017 , 07:47 PM

#6607

iron81

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There is a reason why the first wave of TROs were for feet dry people and none were for feet wet people, but I don't know what that reason is.

02-07-2017 , 07:48 PM

#6608

seattlelou

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Do the math bitch! lol. Purcell a bit shook.

02-07-2017 , 07:48 PM

#6609

BMOL33

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Most of the legal experts on CNN thought this was going to be overturned but the body language early on from the panel sure appears it won't happen.

02-07-2017 , 07:50 PM

#6610

champstark

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God I love the fact that Giuliani ****ed Trump so hard here by going on TV and blabbing his big mouth

02-07-2017 , 07:52 PM

#6611

iron81

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Has Giuliani come up during the call?

02-07-2017 , 07:52 PM

#6612

BMOL33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

God I love the fact that Giuliani ****ed Trump so hard here by going on TV and blabbing his big mouth

It shouldn't matter anyway in reality because there are 40 Muslim majority nations not included in this ban.

02-07-2017 , 07:52 PM

#6613

fatkid

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This Clifton Bush judge is a Trumpkin.

02-07-2017 , 07:53 PM

#6614

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

Has Giuliani come up during the call?

Purcell has brought him up three times (although not specifically by name).

02-07-2017 , 07:53 PM

#6615

El_Timon

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These judges sound tough. They're equally pummeling the Washington judge.

02-07-2017 , 07:53 PM

#6616

m_reed05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

Has Giuliani come up during the call?

Yes

02-07-2017 , 07:55 PM

#6617

Kirbynator

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he just did ye

never forget this face

02-07-2017 , 07:55 PM

#6618

CPHoya

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This attorney is getting equally wrecked, as far as I'm concerned.

The procedural advantage is that WA developed a record, the U.S. did not. I think this goes 2-1 in favor of WA but good lord the SCOTUS arguments better be light years ahead of this.

02-07-2017 , 07:56 PM

#6619

seattlelou

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If the Govt didn't have Saul arguing for them then maybe they could have had a chance.

02-07-2017 , 07:56 PM

#6620

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

They will be better because they will have a ton of time to prepare and practice (like months).

02-07-2017 , 07:58 PM

#6621

Clovis8

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That interview with kellyanne goebels was amazing.

02-07-2017 , 07:58 PM

#6622

champstark

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You guys are being way too tough on both lawyers, by the way. This **** is really hard, especially on such short notice with a hot bench.

02-07-2017 , 07:58 PM

#6623

BMOL33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPHoya

I don't know if it'll ever make to the Supreme Court if Trump loses. They were only doing this for 90-120 days to get a change in the vetting procedures. By the time Gorsuch is seated it'll be 2-3 months and I think by then they'll have come up with whatever changes they wanted and they'll most likely drop the case. If Trump wins its going to the SCOTUS for sure