gobbo you are walking down an extremely dangerous path with that #actually my dude

h/t to Coates for posting this on the tweetah--this is what a true American soldier should say about the Civil War:

What if you asked Kelly to elaborate, what's the compromise that would have saved America from civil war?

I understand what it implies but I'm not gonna let people be wrong even if they're on 'my side.'

Your line of argument annoys me because it doesn't represent the whole picture. Southerners wanted slaves to count as people for purposes of representation so that they could dominate the national vote, even though slaves COULD NOT VOTE. Northerners, for obvious reasons, felt this was an absurd position.

Jefferson (Southerner and world-renowned slave rapist) defeated Adams (Northerner and anti-slavery, although not perfect by any means) solely because of the 3/5ths compromise.

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"Young, low level volunteer named George."

Welp no pardons for George, time to sing!

Papadopolous colluded not me bro. God he’s dumb. Mueller has more people on tape you Orange dork your lawyer could of told you that. They prob did tell him but he can’t help himself.

I'm not even arguing a side and I shouldn't have even said you were wrong, because I figured you actually knew the obvious part of it. It's just that people constantly get hung up on the emotional part of it that slaves being worth 3/5 of a person is somehow a slight on them when it has nothing to do with it.

This is not a hill I want to die on. It's just a pet peeve of mine because it pops up on twitter every few months and it has to be explained every time.

He already traded doesn’t need a pardon.

OK, just a little bit odd that you said what you did, but whatever. Fair enough I guess.

The criticism of the northerners who didn't want to count slaves at all is a bit different from the argument you're now making. The northeners who didn't want slaves to count at all weren't hypocrites, they were trying to diminish southern political power -- a good thing! That the 3/5th compromise wound up in the Constitution shows how much the north was willing to compromise with solutions that were so non-intuitive. We think of the people of the era as something of simpletons who didn't share our appreciation of human decency and couldn't simply compromise (e.g., the John Kelly position). But what the 3/5th compromise shows how much everyone had to contort themselves, how much they had to compromise and barter and deal on this. The whole "3/5 of a person" being an absurd thought construction demonstrates the complete unscrupulousness of the southern position, that slaves who they held as chattel ought to count for apportionment, but not in any other way. And the compromise highlights the absurdity of it all and the great lengths everyone went to in order to compromise. It was the antebellum equivalent of voter ID laws -- where slaves increase your political power but aren't allow to have any themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the allegations is that campaign members suggested that someone "low level" should be communicating to the Russians so as not to raise any alarm bells, right?

Ya, apologies for even getting into it. Impossible to argue it without looking like a tool.

I understand the actual point and what you mean, but I have to disagree that most people see it that way. When it's referred to, it's generally an emotional plea.

What exactly are you trying to say? The south got the 3/5 to increase their representation in the house and electoral college. Period. They didn't get 3/5 to represent 3/5 the interest of those enslaved.

That video link on slavery is awesome. They should run it as the halftime show at the Superbowl this year, right before the Trump family trip to gallows.

A low level volunteer is someone selling MAGA hats at the state fair, not someone atttending NATSEC meetings and getting mentions in the Washington Post

No, it doesn’t.

Yep.

Also, really dumb move to say he was someone few people knew:

The tweets are starting to reek of desperation.

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Just to be clear here, he is 100% saying that Manafort committed a crime, And he knows about it... it just happened before he was Trumps campaign manager?

I wonder how Manafort feels being outted as known to have committed crimes in official public white house statements?

pretty much-

starting to?

Holy ****, Colbert's clip of Roosevelt giving his Day which will Live in Infamy speech, ending with "Somebody do Something!" Was so ****ing funny.

Like, I know where the joke was going, it's still really funny.

Lol this is funny gg America.

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