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02-07-2017 , 02:51 PM

#6501

Victor

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so was there way for the dems to keep sessions from voting? like, could they have confirmed him earlier so that he couldnt vote?

02-07-2017 , 02:51 PM

#6502

miajag

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Here's the video

and here's what the sheriff is talking about, the state senator is a conservative Republican,
https://www.texascjc.org/system/file...Forfeiture.pdf

https://twitter.com/KonniBurton is the Senator she doesn't seem to have responded to Trump yet.

The sheriff is whining that they might not be able to steal **** from innocent people!

Yeah, this **** is un****ingbelieveable and sadly is going to get largely overlooked in the furor over DeVos' confirmation.

02-07-2017 , 02:54 PM

#6503

LordJvK

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I was listening to the 538 and they had different figures from that. It was something like 46% approve and 54% disapprove.

Latest edition (Trump vs. The Courts 2/6/17), about 28 mins in.

02-07-2017 , 02:56 PM

#6504

Autocratic

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

That WH list of 75 terror attacks the lamestream media forgot to tell you about is the absolute perfect exemplar of Trump: Lazy And Stupid, or Passively Malicious debate. Rife with typos, nonsense, half-truths, and implicit lies (San Bernadino wasn't covered by the media?), no one can credibly respond to it since it's just total nonsense top to bottom. It was so careless and hastily written you have to imagine it's not even supposed to be consumed like that.

At some point not caring about the details and making it rife with errors has to be intentional. It's like the Make America Great Again hats which are trashy garbage to anyone with taste but undoubtedly meant to be a form of low-art, like the WWE and ballet are just dots on the physical performance continuum.

That list is low-grade propaganda but I'm becoming ever more convinced that has to be the point. This is more or less how the 30% of diehard Trumpkins engage with the world and think about terrorism. Normal people rising to disrespect the list for its brazen indifference to facts and correct spelling miss the genuine, earnest nature of the mistakes and carelessness. I'm only half ****ing kidding here. You can imagine what's going on in the amygdala of the Trumpkin: the elites have missed the point again, Trump knows in his gut like they do that Muslims are blowing everyone up, everywhere, and fact-checking, nay, SPELL CHECKING are simply fiddling while Rome burns at the hands of the Mohammedmen. Oh, you doubt the Muslims threaten everyone with Sharia Law and are blowing everyone up? OK whatever, he's a list you nerd, now go **** yourself, IT'S HAPPENING, OK? I mean sure, Donald Trump may spell some words in ways we don't like, but we love him unlike any other politician because he spells the way we're thinking, finally Washington gets it.

I enjoy this theory, but 95% chance that the orders in Trump HQ come down frantically and aggressively, and ill-prepared underlings are scrambling to get this **** out ASAP.

02-07-2017 , 03:01 PM

#6505

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

so was there way for the dems to keep sessions from voting? like, could they have confirmed him earlier so that he couldnt vote?

No, McConnell schedules the votes

02-07-2017 , 03:02 PM

#6506

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The American Conservative goes full "this is about keeping America white".

Quote:

And so we see that ultimately this debate—whether focused on refugees or the broader immigration issue—is about numbers. Anti-Trump liberals want more immigrants, particularly if they are not Europeans. They want that percentage number on foreign-born Americans to go up, beyond the 2015 number of 13.7 percent, beyond the 1890 record of 14.8 percent, and shooting for the projected 18 percent. The day that there is no longer a European majority in America is welcomed by them—the sooner, the better.

Trump supporters want fewer immigrants to allow the country to better absorb that current 13.7 percent of foreign-born Americans, to allow for some debate about the implications of current immigration policy, and to preserve the country’s ties to the Western heritage.

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...ration-debate/

Should probably expect more of this. Republicans to pick up this kind of rhetoric and strategies talking to their base in explicitly white nationalist terms.

Also funny how we went from the "Muslim ban" being a campaign rhetorical tool for meaning stricter vetting to banning Muslims completely as fulfilling a campaign promise and now Trump owns it to his followers.

02-07-2017 , 03:07 PM

#6507

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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

In, "look at the size of the balls on these guys" news, Melania Trump, represented by an attorney who previously represented Hulk Hogan, is suing the Daily Mail for defamation. The suit asks for $150 million because she lost out on several "once in a lifetime" opportunities to monetize her position as First Lady.

Please, please, please Daily Mail, refuse to settle, find the best attorneys possible, and go scorched earth on the discovery process...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b0d_story.html

Oh man, I hate when I don't know who to root for. The Daily Mail is pure filth so I may even have to hope that they lose (being from the UK). If only they could both lose

02-07-2017 , 03:09 PM

#6508

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Tremendous amount of schadenfreude whoever loses.

02-07-2017 , 03:09 PM

#6509

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Spicer sounds to me like they expect the ban to stay suspended tonight. Really trying to make it clear that tonight is not about the merits of the case, seems like they are really doing their best to make it seem like it's not a defeat if they lose.

02-07-2017 , 03:14 PM

#6510

champstark

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

It would be a complete shock if the 9th Circuit overturns the TRO, for a lot of reasons (deference to the District Court being the main one).

02-07-2017 , 03:16 PM

#6511

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1st step: kill the free press
2nd step: weaponize the FBI and NSA
3rd step: use this weapon to dig up dirt on political enemies
4th step: neuter the judiciary
5th step: start throwing protestors in jail

That's about all it will take to turn the US into Russia

02-07-2017 , 03:17 PM

#6512

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Spice sure says "he clearly means..." a lot. He also just said that the raid in Yemen was an incredible info-gathering success, save the loss of life, and that we have to prepare our students for low skilled work.

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02-07-2017 , 03:17 PM

#6513

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

He's tried to do what he said he would, so we can conclude that a large number of the US public were trolling the election. wp.

He's trying to do a subset of what he said he would. He also promised just about everything at one point or another. So the choose your own adventure crowd isn't loving it.

02-07-2017 , 03:19 PM

#6514

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Trump being unpopular because he's not extreme enough is the most worrying thing I've heard yet, which is quite something.

02-07-2017 , 03:25 PM

#6515

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*Bald-faced lie* --Sean Spicer

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Did the briefing get cutoff?

02-07-2017 , 03:25 PM

#6516

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Trump being unpopular because he's not extreme enough is the most worrying thing I've heard yet, which is quite something.

Apparently there is no point at which attacking from the right stops playing well to the base.

Establish a new norm.
Attack from the right.
Chaos ensues - the moderate wing quickly capitulates.
Establish a new norm.
Rinse and repeat.

02-07-2017 , 03:30 PM

#6517

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

The American Conservative goes full "this is about keeping America white".

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...ration-debate/

Should probably expect more of this. Republicans to pick up this kind of rhetoric and strategies talking to their base in explicitly white nationalist terms.

Also funny how we went from the "Muslim ban" being a campaign rhetorical tool for meaning stricter vetting to banning Muslims completely as fulfilling a campaign promise and now Trump owns it to his followers.

This is Pat Buchanan's magazine, not a surprising take from it.

02-07-2017 , 03:36 PM

#6518

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Trump being unpopular because he's not extreme enough is the most worrying thing I've heard yet, which is quite something.

I really must remember to go out and buy a tyre lever. Come the post-Trump post-Brexit zombie apocalypse, it may be a useful and necessary weapon.

02-07-2017 , 03:38 PM

#6519

Trolly McTrollson

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Pat Buchanon was an OG white nationalist before it was cool.

02-07-2017 , 03:43 PM

#6520

suzzer99

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I shook Pat Buchanan's hand at the 1988 Dem Convention. True story.

02-07-2017 , 03:45 PM

#6521

RV Life

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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb

I tried to spend less time in this thread and also less time reading about Trump. I have to say, it all seems to be even more crazy now. I actually seems like the POTUS just learned what division of powers is. Even though it is also clear, that he doesn't believe in it.

And DeVos is a disaster. A whole generation of poor kids will be ****ed. 95 out of 100 just will have a ****ty future of low wage ****ty jobs and debt.

Oh it's much worse than that. Technology will replace those low wage ****ty jobs by the time they join the workforce.

02-07-2017 , 03:45 PM

#6522

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I loved the joke from Joan Rivers way back about Pat Buchanan. It went something like:

"Did you hear that Pat Buchanan's parents died in the Holocaust? Yeah, they fell off the guard tower."

02-07-2017 , 03:46 PM

#6523

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Pat Buchanan was definitely something like the OG Trump. Nativist, fifth column Republican, hated the Bushes. Overlap between Trumpkins and Buchanan 92 primary voters has to be huuuuuuuge.

02-07-2017 , 03:47 PM

#6524

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Originally Posted by RV Life

Oh it's much worse than that. Technology will replace those low wage ****ty jobs by the time they join the workforce.

We'll be talking about the good ole days when there were jobs with low wages.

Everyone is talking about the wall but it's things like all those self-checkout machines in stores that should be scaring Billy Bob in the red states.

02-07-2017 , 03:53 PM

#6525

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeroDeniro

Yea I used to work at Home Depot 20 years ago. When I went there the other night, I was taken aback at how there were 2-3 cashiers each running 4 self check out lines. When I worked there, we had 40 registers and always had at least 20 people working at all times. I know it's been happening gradually but damn, it was an eye opener. And I bet those cashiers today make less than I did back in 1999.

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