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02-07-2017 , 12:52 PM

#6476

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

WaPo - What’s largely and glaringly missing from Trump’s list of terrorist attacks: Non-Western victims

According to the analysis, 658 people were killed in 46 attacks in Europe and the Americas. During that same time period, 28,031 people died in 2,063 attacks in the rest of the world.

Is our attack in Yemen on that list?

What about Trumps first drone strike in Turkey?

02-07-2017 , 12:57 PM

#6477

Riverman

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DeVos is the perfect Truml nominee: inherited her wealth from a legal scam organization, aggressively stupid, absolutely shameless.

02-07-2017 , 01:00 PM

#6478

MyrnaFTW

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

DeVos is the perfect Truml nominee: inherited her wealth from a legal scam organization, aggressively stupid, absolutely shameless.

I agree, i'm hoping more for selfish and monetary and entertainment reasons, but if she doesnt get approved , im ok with it too.

02-07-2017 , 01:02 PM

#6479

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

I saw on Twitter an idea for having Willem Dafoe as Kellyanne Conway on SNL.

Between that, Rosie as Trump, and McCarthy as Spicer, holy **** Trump might explode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

If they got Rosie to do him he genuinely might nuke new York.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

she has the accent AND trump's body type

Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

Rosie pulling Trump's strings is even bettter

http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/07/rosie-od...ve-bannon-snl/

02-07-2017 , 01:05 PM

#6480

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/polit...ckwall-sheriff

Edit: My pony's career was destroyed.

Here's the video

and here's what the sheriff is talking about, the state senator is a conservative Republican,
https://www.texascjc.org/system/file...Forfeiture.pdf

https://twitter.com/KonniBurton is the Senator she doesn't seem to have responded to Trump yet.

The sheriff is whining that they might not be able to steal **** from innocent people!

02-07-2017 , 01:06 PM

#6481

Csaba

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The mother of the victim of one of the incidents included in the White House's list has responded:

Quote:

The mother of a backpacker who was stabbed to death in Australia has criticised the White House for labelling her death a "terror attack".

Mia Ayliffe-Chung, 20, who was killed at a hostel in Queensland in August, did not die as a result of terrorism, police have said.

Despite this, her death was included on a list of 78 alleged "terror" attacks released by the Trump administration.

Rosie Ayliffe said Mia's death must not be used to persecute innocent people.

The 20 year old, from Wirksworth, died from multiple stab wounds, during the attack at Home Hill, near Townsville.

Australian police have ruled out the possibility her death - which was widely reported by media in the UK and abroad - was the result of a terror attack.

Mr Trump's comments come amid a legal bid by his administration to restore a travel ban on visitors and refugees from seven predominantly Muslim countries.

In an open letter to the president, Mrs Ayliffe said: "Treating immigrants as disposable commodities and disregarding their safety causes deaths throughout our so-called civilised world."

02-07-2017 , 01:28 PM

#6482

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Here's the video

Wow, didn't realize this was actually on camera.

02-07-2017 , 01:31 PM

#6483

yeSpiff

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Spicer: NY Times Owes Trump 'An Apology,' He Doesn't 'Own a Bathrobe'

02-07-2017 , 01:39 PM

#6484

.isolated

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Trump would die before he had time to write an apology or give an apology speech to each and every person that he's unfairly and illegally given hardship to since the start of his presidency. I'd like to see him give those apologies.

02-07-2017 , 01:41 PM

#6485

slidey1

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Devos confirmed. Just more history making in the books.......

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/u...gtype=Homepage

02-07-2017 , 01:44 PM

#6486

sofocused978

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So Kelly just took blame for the botched roll out of the ban?

02-07-2017 , 01:54 PM

#6487

yeSpiff

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Now that I just started calling it; the travel Bannon.

02-07-2017 , 02:04 PM

#6488

Bigoldnit

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In, "look at the size of the balls on these guys" news, Melania Trump, represented by an attorney who previously represented Hulk Hogan, is suing the Daily Mail for defamation. The suit asks for $150 million because she lost out on several "once in a lifetime" opportunities to monetize her position as First Lady.

Please, please, please Daily Mail, refuse to settle, find the best attorneys possible, and go scorched earth on the discovery process...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b0d_story.html

02-07-2017 , 02:18 PM

#6489

Csaba

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Can't believe I'm typing this but I hope the Mail wins this case.

02-07-2017 , 02:20 PM

#6490

uDevil

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My senators voted for Devos. Oh well, at least I can look forward to the possibility of Rosie playing Bannon in a 5 minute skit.

02-07-2017 , 02:22 PM

#6491

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

That list is low-grade propaganda but I'm becoming ever more convinced that has to be the point. This is more or less how the 30% of diehard Trumpkins engage with the world and think about terrorism. Normal people rising to disrespect the list for its brazen indifference to facts and correct spelling miss the genuine, earnest nature of the mistakes and carelessness. I'm only half ****ing kidding here. You can imagine what's going on in the amygdala of the Trumpkin: the elites have missed the point again, Trump knows in his gut like they do that Muslims are blowing everyone up, everywhere, and fact-checking, nay, SPELL CHECKING are simply fiddling while Rome burns at the hands of the Mohammedmen. Oh, you doubt the Muslims threaten everyone with Sharia Law and are blowing everyone up? OK whatever, he's a list you nerd, now go **** yourself, IT'S HAPPENING, OK? I mean sure, Donald Trump may spell some words in ways we don't like, but we love him unlike any other politician because he spells the way we're thinking, finally Washington gets it.

The mind of a Trumpkin is a precarious thing:

Quote:

[suzzer] ok again I am tired of this discussion, how about this, they are not citizens of the United States, they have no rights here in this country. If the President says they are excluded that is the law, guaranteed by article 8 I believe if the Constitution and definitely by the US code. So protest all you like, paid or unpaid, we elected the man to stop Muslims from flooding into our country among other things, so personally I don't care. If it was up to me we would be hunting all illegals down and deporting them, and fining any businesses caught employing them enough to make examples of them. I am for Americans first for real. I see what the Muslims are doing in Europe and I don't want to leave my children and grand children a country that is divided and has constant violent protest and riots. Apparently I need to include a portion of the Democratic Party, who want to whine, complain, and protest everything that offends them, and then blow up Facebook with a barrage of crap. So you know, the burden of proof isn't on anyone unless someone is being charged with a crime, it is a free country and everyone is allowed to spout all the BS they feel like. You have no proof that their weren't paid protesters, I heard the same crap during the election Trump is crazy Democrats would never pay people to disrupt his rally's and cause violence. Then come to find out Hillary was doing that very thing, why aren't you crying out for her to be prosecuted for paying people to in many cases cause violence which is a felony? Because you are a biased, and unwilling to accept yet again that many don't see it the same way as you. If you argue with me for the rest of your life I will still be voting a straight Republican ticket, I will still donate money to the RNC every year, I will always be against welfare and Medicaid in any fashion, for any reason. I will always be against food stamps, rent assistance, and any other entitlement programs on a Federal level for any reason. I will always be against excessive immigration, lobbyist in Washington, unlimited terms for Senators and Congress. I am a lifetime member of the NRA, I will always be for an armed society, I will always oppose anyone who believes that women are subhuman, who own slaves, who don't think for themselves but follow a religious leader blindly, that isn't because I am a racist it is because I have a brain, and if a group of people live in opposition to everything the US stands for then only a fool would say bring them here we can change them. I will stand for Jesus Christ until my last breath and then I will walk with him. That doesn't make me a religious nut job, it means again I have faith and it guides my path. So for the last time there is no magic post that is going to change the way I think, lets agree to disagree and let it go please. Just stop tagging me in these posts attacking the President and his staff, you are entitled to your opinions, I respect your opinions, I mostly disagree and see then as both irrelevant and divisive. So let's carry on and stop harassing each other on FB.

02-07-2017 , 02:28 PM

#6492

lycosid

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At least he's opposed to slavery?

02-07-2017 , 02:36 PM

#6493

Chippa58

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Trump on the travel ban: "It's common sense. Y'know some things are law, and I'm all in favor of that, and some things are common sense. This is common sense".

He doesn't really ever seem to realize that laws have to live up to American morals as laid out in the Constitution. He has the same issue with torture. All he cares about is whether it works. The reason its not permitted is not based on whether or not it works.

02-07-2017 , 02:41 PM

#6494

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

How is this not snap impeachment? They are straight up admitting to financial gain as president.

These people are so ****ing awful. Literal worst of humanity.

02-07-2017 , 02:41 PM

#6495

champstark

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Spice man will be on shortly. Should be entertaining, at least.

02-07-2017 , 02:42 PM

#6496

Rococo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

I don't know if there's any polling to back this up, but my anecdotal sense is that lawyers, even Republicans, hate Trump. It wouldn't be all that surprising if the resolution is, "The president has discretion to do all this stuff, but this is actually a pretext for banning Muslims so it's illegal or unconstitutional." even though that's objectively a shocking thing for a court to hold.

Trump's attacks on judges play very poorly with lawyers, even Republican lawyers. Republican lawyers tend to be establishment types, not populists. I would be shocked if Trump was the first choice of any of the justices on the SCOTUS, and it wouldn't surprise me if two or three of Kennedy, Alito, Clarence, and Roberts voted for HRC.

I don't expect the SCOTUS to go out of its way to screw Trump but I also don't expect it to be a rubber stamp. The odds of a serious conflict between the Court and the Trump administration are very high. And the first time one of Trump's appointees joins a majority that rules against him, he is going to lose his marbles.

02-07-2017 , 02:43 PM

#6497

JacktheDumb

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I tried to spend less time in this thread and also less time reading about Trump. I have to say, it all seems to be even more crazy now. I actually seems like the POTUS just learned what division of powers is. Even though it is also clear, that he doesn't believe in it.

And DeVos is a disaster. A whole generation of poor kids will be ****ed. 95 out of 100 just will have a ****ty future of low wage ****ty jobs and debt.

02-07-2017 , 02:43 PM

#6498

LordJvK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lycosid

At least he's opposed to slavery?

That's actually dubious because his favourite wrestler was Ted Dibiase at a time when he bought and sold slaves. (Hercules, if you are wondering.)

It was long established that Trump was a Dibiase fan.