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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-07-2017 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Donald Trump is like a 3 year old in that he cannot tell the difference between truth and fiction. Thus he is incapable of lying.

He makes delusional statements that he genuinely believes to be true which is why he is able to say what he says with a straight face. Deceit requires mens rea. Trump doesn't have that when he talks because he actually thinks he's telling the truth.

That goes against stories like his butler said about how Trump would lie about who painted a mural on a wall at Mar-a-lago and trump just said it didn't matter if it was true, it was more fun this way.


He does lie often and knows he does but thinks it doesn't matter bc he thinks the truth doesn't really matter


He also does what you are saying where he doesn't know he is lying, but it's both things, not just one
02-07-2017 , 11:25 AM
The press should have been banning Conway, et al from the jump. The media basically allowed Trump to win by not going hard on him at the beginning. Now that he is attacking them on a daily basis as the president, they are saying they are going to boycott Conway.
02-07-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Constituents requesting that Rep. Jimmy Duncan Jr. (R-TN) hold a town hall on repealing the Affordable Care Act aren't being met with a polite brushoff from staffers anymore. Instead, Duncan's office has started sending out a form letter telling them point-blank that he has no intention to hold any town hall meetings.

“I am not going to hold town hall meetings in this atmosphere, because they would very quickly turn into shouting opportunities for extremists, kooks and radicals,” the letter read, according to a copy obtained by the Maryville Daily Times. “Also, I do not intend to give more publicity to those on the far left who have so much hatred, anger and frustration in them.”

In the first weeks of the 115th Congress, elected officials dropping by their home districts were surprised to find town halls packed to the rafters with concerned constituents. Caught off guard and on camera, lawmakers were asked to defend President Donald Trump’s immigration policies and provide a timeline on repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act.

Now, many of them are skipping out on these events entirely. Some have said large meetings are an ineffective format for addressing individual concerns. Many others have, like the President himself, dismissed those questioning their agenda as “paid protesters” or radical activists who could pose a physical threat.
RIP town halls.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/cons...ampaign=buffer
02-07-2017 , 11:38 AM
Is it an unreasonable line of thinking that a lot of these "journalists" are dead lazy and people like Trump, Spicer, Conway make writing and their job thoughtless and easy?

Softballs are being thrown up daily amd articles are writing themselves so who needs to actually work hard, dig and do their job?

Just a thought
02-07-2017 , 11:39 AM
Trump tweets he doesn't know Putin again today. Lol
02-07-2017 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
www.townhallproject.com
02-07-2017 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud
Is it an unreasonable line of thinking that a lot of these "journalists" are dead lazy and people like Trump, Spicer, Conway make writing and their job thoughtless and easy?

Softballs are being thrown up daily amd articles are writing themselves so who needs to actually work hard, dig and do their job?

Just a thought
Counterpoint: the quality, quantity, and depth of investigative journalism on Trump and his administration have been terrific.
02-07-2017 , 11:44 AM
This is a good summary of the legal issues behind the Robart TRO of the Muslim ban:

http://www.vox.com/2017/2/7/14514792...-lawsuit-judge
02-07-2017 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
lol yeah, Repubes are the cowards we thought they were

It's time to get creative in letting our elected reps know how we feel if they're too cowardly to let us address them directly

02-07-2017 , 11:48 AM
Theresa May already taking the piss out of Donnie's small hands in a speech to private donors. Lol. The boys a laughing stock!
02-07-2017 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
This is a good summary of the legal issues behind the Robart TRO of the Muslim ban:

http://www.vox.com/2017/2/7/14514792...-lawsuit-judge
Yeah, after reading this I'm even more convinced it's going to be deemed illegal under the Immigration Act as opposed to unconstitutional. It's exactly the kind of logic Roberts could get behind to stop the ban 5-4 (assuming it doesn't go to SCOTUS until after Gorsuch is confirmed).
02-07-2017 , 12:17 PM
That WH list of 75 terror attacks the lamestream media forgot to tell you about is the absolute perfect exemplar of Trump: Lazy And Stupid, or Passively Malicious debate. Rife with typos, nonsense, half-truths, and implicit lies (San Bernadino wasn't covered by the media?), no one can credibly respond to it since it's just total nonsense top to bottom. It was so careless and hastily written you have to imagine it's not even supposed to be consumed like that.

At some point not caring about the details and making it rife with errors has to be intentional. It's like the Make America Great Again hats which are trashy garbage to anyone with taste but undoubtedly meant to be a form of low-art, like the WWE and ballet are just dots on the physical performance continuum.

That list is low-grade propaganda but I'm becoming ever more convinced that has to be the point. This is more or less how the 30% of diehard Trumpkins engage with the world and think about terrorism. Normal people rising to disrespect the list for its brazen indifference to facts and correct spelling miss the genuine, earnest nature of the mistakes and carelessness. I'm only half ****ing kidding here. You can imagine what's going on in the amygdala of the Trumpkin: the elites have missed the point again, Trump knows in his gut like they do that Muslims are blowing everyone up, everywhere, and fact-checking, nay, SPELL CHECKING are simply fiddling while Rome burns at the hands of the Mohammedmen. Oh, you doubt the Muslims threaten everyone with Sharia Law and are blowing everyone up? OK whatever, he's a list you nerd, now go **** yourself, IT'S HAPPENING, OK? I mean sure, Donald Trump may spell some words in ways we don't like, but we love him unlike any other politician because he spells the way we're thinking, finally Washington gets it.
02-07-2017 , 12:23 PM
Am i the only one hoping this Devos vote ends 50-50 so we can see the VP do something actually? which we all know of course which way that will go.
02-07-2017 , 12:25 PM
I mean what was the old Colbert joke about the press and the Bush Administration? Just write down whatever Bush says, put it through the spell checker, and call it a day?

Well with Trump you don't even need the ****ing spell checker, he don't even give a **** about that, that's for squares. Trump lackeys don't even acknowledge the red squiggly line, it just reminds them of the blood of Americans flowing through the streets at the hands of Muslim immigrants and BLM, phonemic orthography is just another liberal impediment to Making America Great Again.
02-07-2017 , 12:33 PM
Years ago when online message boards first became popular, I used to post on a weather board on (LOL) AOL. There was this one meteorologist that while he was intelligent, he could not handle being trolled. And people, especially teens would troll him non-stop. Like, he might say something like "NYC should see 4-6 inches of snow." and if NYC got 3.9 inches of snow, people would say he sucks at forecasting. And he would fall for it every single time. He eventually ended up killing himself because the trolls basically drove him insane. Anyways, I see a lot of similarities between him and how Trump reacts to anything negative about him. They both crave attention and positive reinforcement and cannot handle the slightest criticism.
02-07-2017 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Republicans in Congress are tap-dancing their asses off when confronted with Trump's absurd statements. That's probably better TV than KellyAnne.
exactly. kellyanne is a rodeo clown for this administration's ****-ups
02-07-2017 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Yeah, after reading this I'm even more convinced it's going to be deemed illegal under the Immigration Act as opposed to unconstitutional. It's exactly the kind of logic Roberts could get behind to stop the ban 5-4 (assuming it doesn't go to SCOTUS until after Gorsuch is confirmed).
I have a probably useless hope that (not necessarily for this specific case, but in general) when Trump stuff comes up before the supreme court, even the diehard righties like Thomas and Alito think Trump is such a pos, they will come up with some way to rule against the DOJ (i.e., concurring with some sort of separate opinion that doesn't contradict everything else they've written). Also, so far, Trump's team is such a tire fire that there will likely be all sorts of sloppy language in the EOs, etc. that they can nit them without having to change their overall philosophy.

But I'm not holding my breath.

Last edited by Melkerson; 02-07-2017 at 12:38 PM.
02-07-2017 , 12:37 PM
02-07-2017 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
That WH list of 75 terror attacks the lamestream media forgot to tell you about is the absolute perfect exemplar of Trump: Lazy And Stupid, or Passively Malicious debate. Rife with typos, nonsense, half-truths, and implicit lies (San Bernadino wasn't covered by the media?), no one can credibly respond to it since it's just total nonsense top to bottom. It was so careless and hastily written you have to imagine it's not even supposed to be consumed like that.

At some point not caring about the details and making it rife with errors has to be intentional. It's like the Make America Great Again hats which are trashy garbage to anyone with taste but undoubtedly meant to be a form of low-art, like the WWE and ballet are just dots on the physical performance continuum.

That list is low-grade propaganda but I'm becoming ever more convinced that has to be the point. This is more or less how the 30% of diehard Trumpkins engage with the world and think about terrorism. Normal people rising to disrespect the list for its brazen indifference to facts and correct spelling miss the genuine, earnest nature of the mistakes and carelessness. I'm only half ****ing kidding here. You can imagine what's going on in the amygdala of the Trumpkin: the elites have missed the point again, Trump knows in his gut like they do that Muslims are blowing everyone up, everywhere, and fact-checking, nay, SPELL CHECKING are simply fiddling while Rome burns at the hands of the Mohammedmen. Oh, you doubt the Muslims threaten everyone with Sharia Law and are blowing everyone up? OK whatever, he's a list you nerd, now go **** yourself, IT'S HAPPENING, OK? I mean sure, Donald Trump may spell some words in ways we don't like, but we love him unlike any other politician because he spells the way we're thinking, finally Washington gets it.
The thing is, Trump's never had to ever put any work into selling his scams, so why start now? Every enterprise he's engaged in has been just such an obvious Trump University-style lazy scam and for some insane reason a huge chunk of people fall for it every time.
02-07-2017 , 12:40 PM

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/polit...ckwall-sheriff

Edit: My pony's career was destroyed.
02-07-2017 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
I have a probably useless hope that (not necessarily for this specific case, but in general) when Trump stuff comes up before the supreme court, even the diehard righties like Thomas and Alito think Trump is such a pos, they will come up with some way to rule against the DOJ (i.e., concurring with some sort of separate opinion that doesn't contradict everything else they've written). Also, so far, Trump's team is such a tire fire that there will likely be all sorts of sloppy language in the EOs, etc. that they can nit them without having to change their overall philosophy.

But I'm not holding my breath.
I don't know if there's any polling to back this up, but my anecdotal sense is that lawyers, even Republicans, hate Trump. It wouldn't be all that surprising if the resolution is, "The president has discretion to do all this stuff, but this is actually a pretext for banning Muslims so it's illegal or unconstitutional." even though that's objectively a shocking thing for a court to hold.
02-07-2017 , 12:44 PM
WaPo - What’s largely and glaringly missing from Trump’s list of terrorist attacks: Non-Western victims
According to the analysis, 658 people were killed in 46 attacks in Europe and the Americas. During that same time period, 28,031 people died in 2,063 attacks in the rest of the world.
02-07-2017 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
Am i the only one hoping this Devos vote ends 50-50 so we can see the VP do something actually? which we all know of course which way that will go.
No. I legit think she will be horrible and lower the long-term EV of the US.
02-07-2017 , 12:45 PM
Considering a lot of the crap Trump is doing is at night or on weekends without notice, yea I can imagine a lot of lawyers are starting to hate him if they don't already.
02-07-2017 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
WaPo - What’s largely and glaringly missing from Trump’s list of terrorist attacks: Non-Western victims
Well duh, wgaf about brown people killing each other? Same reason they have a boner for black-on-white crime but only mention black-on-black if they can use it as evidence of "carnage" in an "inner city" somewhere.

      
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