"Can you stand like this and make a weld right there?"
"Why?"
"Because I like the composition."
"But there is no reason for me to weld anything there. It doesn't make any sense."
"Just shut up and weld."

Condoms

It turned out that when Kellyanne "misspoke" about the Bowling Green Massacre, it was the third time she had told that whopper.

lol nice 3rd-grader response from conway

Jake T-T-T-TAPPERED!!!! yeah son!

I saw on Twitter an idea for having Willem Dafoe as Kellyanne Conway on SNL.

Between that, Rosie as Trump, and McCarthy as Spicer, holy **** Trump might explode.

I agree, which is why a think a 80year old shouldnt rule over thinks like net neutrality.

Spice is telling all of Fox News -and their viewers - that all the protesters are paid for. This is a huge problem. My father believes this...he is Fox's base. He does not believe the WH Press Sec'y - or the President - would lie to the American people.

spicer said that where? jesus christ

Yea it's up the rest of the media to call Spicer/Trump out on their BS. Fox crazies are Fox crazies no matter what. Those viewers are 100% backing Trump.

Video of Brian Killmead interviewing Spicer.

I have no idea what the website is - it looks like propaganda crap...but the video is obviously real.

this **** gives me headaches, literally infowars running the usa

Speaking of Spicer, I'm not sure if this is accidental humor or not.

That is my favorite gum.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-spicer-234715

“Where’s my good old gang done gone?”
I heard a sad man say.
I whispered in that sad man’s ear,
“Your gang’s done gone away.”

edit: sorry about the grunch






Clinically, you don't say delusional people are 'lying' even though delusional people and liars are both not telling the truth.

Supposedly these images really bother Trump.

This tweet in particular seems to have its origins in the trolling of Trump that the real President is Bannon and that he hoodwinked Trump into putting him on the NSC:

I do like how he says 'largely' as in, uh, hey Long Tie Donnie, that might still make the point.

einbert can bring that quote from ur-fascism. No real powerful man of action would ALWAYS make decisions based on the accumulation of data. Sometimes der Trumpenstein gotta shoot from the hip.

Just getting back to this.

I agree that a majority, probably a vast majority of Trumpkins are simply unprincipled nihilists and don't give a **** about troops or military service. Or they are ardent partisans that will do anything to take a Democrat down.

I'm equally convinced of two other things though:

1. in the heat of a political campaign, voters will let enough cognitive dissonance in to allow themselves to believe John Kerry is a traitor simply because they don't agree with him politically; that's an order of magnitude different from that to getting voters to believe active duty military are worthy of the scorn they heaped on Kerry. Make Trump own those coffins showing up at Dover; we really think he can swiftboat the war dead? He's proven surprisingly politically adept but let's not give him too much credit here. The right swiftboated a partisan liberal in the heat of a Presidential campaign; swiftboating random dead soldiers is a completely different matter altogether
2. and there are a significant number of people who have a genuine respect for troops and military service such that if you can get people to internalize a narrative that Trump is both incompetent and reckless with American lives, it would be highly damaging for him politically. Even if it was 5% of his voters, that would constitute a significant erosion of political capital.

I remain entirely cynical about the moral credibility of most voters, particularly Trumpkins but I am equally convinced that fundamentally, perpetuating a narrative that Trump is incompetent in ways that threaten the safety of military members serving in war one of if not the most potentially damaging memes available. Yes: lots of Trumpkins, mouthbreathers, and principle-free right-wingers cynically wave the flag. But tons of people -- many Trump voters -- buy into a sincere nationalism and the value of the lives of people serving down to their very core and will become outraged if a collection of stories starts to build that suggests Trump's malfeasance here. The Iraq War is a great example; I am confident the hypothetical interchange 5ive wrote out happened all over America circa 2003 but I'm equally convinced that by 2006, the message had more or less sunk in and the damage was done to Bush. Once people saw that it was a pointless quagmire, the costs in human life and resources spent became stark. Heck, the Democrats haven't had a period of success like 2006-2008 in DECADES. That wasn't a bad script to follow and the first-draft of the screenplay was written in 2003. The groundwork was laid in repeating things like "this is a pointless quagmire" and "all Bush's fault" over and over.

I like CNN's move with Kellyanne Conway. If you're going to get frozen out and undermined as journalists by the Administration, and if she's just coming on to present misinformation, then it's not good journalism to keep bringing her back. She's obviously not credible and ratings are the only excuse to bother with her at all. They have an obligation to provide credible information but zero obligation to make themselves a platform for propaganda (Trump's or otherwise).

20 years ago I'd have disagreed with the above because, nonsense or not, you ought to report what government representatives are saying, and then call it out as needed. But today with Twitter they're getting it out there in a very quotable and reportable medium so that's covered.

They probably won't stay the course on her but I hope they do. Make the White House send a representative who can sensibly answer questions. And if they can't or won't, then you choose the next best source. I'm sure they don't want to lose their voice to former Obama staffers doing analysis bits or John McCain whoever.

Surprisingly the mainstream media's infatuation and embrace of access to government officials made them forget that the value proposition cut both ways. CNN rebuking Conway seems like the first sort of inkling in a while that the media is doing the government a tremendous service giving bureaucrats and lackeys like Conway tons of incredibly valuable free media time to say stuff.

Trump Admin will pout and threaten to take their ball to FNC or Facebook Live or whatever to play with them instead but CNN's posturing here does constitute a problem for them.

On Bended Knee: The Press and the Reagan Presidency (1988)

Good book on the subject of media and access.

John Bercow's excellent stand deserves a mention. He is the speaker in the house of commons and is getting much praise but also a great deal of flak from the government . It's worth realising that he is a UK conservative