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10-13-2017 , 10:48 AM

#62201

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Let's hear them admit that and see how far it gets them.

What ****ing planet do you live on?

10-13-2017 , 10:49 AM

#62202

Kafja

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'Trump mentioned Christmas and how department stores do not say Merry Christmas.

"Well guess what? We're saying Merry Christmas again!" Trump exclaimed.

The crowd gave a roaring standing ovation.'

Pretty sure he could announce literally anything - internment camps for undesirables, nuclear war, abolish the constitution - and if he ended the statement with MERRY CHRISTMAS LOL SUCK IT LIBS all these swivel-eyed goons would eat it up.

10-13-2017 , 10:49 AM

#62203

iamnotawerewolf

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Originally Posted by microbet

Says who?

I'm inclined to disagree. I don't think either of us have any studies to cite, but if you look at something like the collapse of the KKK I think it was more the result of ridicule and humiliation than positive encouragement.

And generally shrinking white supremacy depends more on young people seeing that it's shameful when they are forming their ideology than on convincing Archie Bunker to vote differently.

Social exposure killed the Klan, not illegalization of their symbols.

How would social exposure occur if forced into darkness?

Of course the old ass racists are too deeply entrenched to reach. Contain the group by exposing its idiocy and police its criminal activities. No need to shatter our fundamental values, the ones they would be happy to see gone if they had the power.

10-13-2017 , 10:50 AM

#62204

iamnotawerewolf

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Originally Posted by Victor

yes, I want to drive them back underground so that they are less able to influence others and perpetuate their ideas. and so that they are no longer in positions of power like attorney general or president or cabinet.

You don't think klansmen held office?

10-13-2017 , 10:52 AM

#62205

iamnotawerewolf

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Uh, have you been paying attention? They have admitted it. The president has admitted it!

Cite Trump saying he wants to treat blacks as subhuman.

10-13-2017 , 10:56 AM

#62206

iamnotawerewolf

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Master, I have no idea how you read "capitulate" from that quote.

10-13-2017 , 10:59 AM

#62207

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Grandpa McTrollson helped put Naizs underground in a literal sense; seems like that solved a lot of the Nazi problems they had back in his day.

10-13-2017 , 11:00 AM

#62208

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yeSpiff

lol morons

10-13-2017 , 11:00 AM

#62209

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Cite Trump saying he wants to treat blacks as subhuman.

Spoiler:

10-13-2017 , 11:04 AM

#62210

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Cite Trump saying he wants to treat blacks as subhuman.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/protes...rticle/2001211

10-13-2017 , 11:05 AM

#62211

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

White supremacists think they're under attack.

You win by showing them that they aren't, not by doing what they're saying you're doing.

Holy ****ing ****

***** they should be! Every ****ing day should be relentless. Get the **** out of here with this ****.

The same playbook, every ****ing time. What starts out as a "terrible strawman" that they are offended to even read as a characterization of their views ends up being like, way less bad than what they'll eventually spit out.

10-13-2017 , 11:05 AM

#62212

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Cite Trump saying he wants to treat blacks as subhuman.

Puerto Rico dumb****

10-13-2017 , 11:06 AM

#62213

Jiggymike

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Pretty sure men can threaten to kill their wives and the court won’t do diddly about it. I might be over generalizing but this happened to someone my parents knew: judge told them to “work things out”, guy later murdered her in front of their kids. Guessing this isn’t the only time in history that it’s happened.

Edit: sorry I’m like way behind and didn’t cite but this is a sore spot for me

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10-13-2017 , 11:07 AM

#62214

kerowo

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Originally Posted by Jiggymike

Yeah, we treat women like **** here too.

10-13-2017 , 11:08 AM

#62215

iamnotawerewolf

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He was talking about a protestor, not blacks in general.

The right had no actual regard for the protection of speech, which is part of what makes them ****.

10-13-2017 , 11:09 AM

#62216

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Let's hear them admit that and see how far it gets them.

It got them this far with you, and I'm not inclined to see what lies further down the road.

"Let's hear them admit that" Jesus Christ, they already did. That's the bold contrarianism that sends that tingle down your leg, that's what makes you take their side in every debate.

10-13-2017 , 11:09 AM

#62217

Zimmer4141

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White Supremacists have feelings too guys!!!

10-13-2017 , 11:11 AM

#62218

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

You don't think klansmen held office?

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Cite Trump saying he wants to treat blacks as subhuman*.

WHY ARE YOU GUYS SO BAD AT THIS. I know you're dumb but hell, we're all dumb. Dumb people pull off convincing lies all the ****ing time.

*You notice how Isla She Werewolf of the SS here is already subtly shifting the goalposts? As long as you admit blacks are human, apparently you aren't a white supremacist. Good work, buddy, really advancing the ****ing discourse.

10-13-2017 , 11:12 AM

#62219

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

Puerto Rico dumb****

Calling me a "dumb ****" is attacking the arguer.

Puerto Rico isn't black, and Trump didn't say Puerto Ricans are it should be treated as subhuman.

10-13-2017 , 11:13 AM

#62220

Jiggymike

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Calling me a "dumb ****" is attacking the arguer.

Puerto Rico isn't black, and Trump didn't say Puerto Ricans are it should be treated as subhuman.

Well he’s treating them that way so you can stfu now since you seem to not know what you are talking about

10-13-2017 , 11:14 AM

#62221

iamnotawerewolf

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

It was Wookie's line.

10-13-2017 , 11:15 AM

#62222

iamnotawerewolf

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Yeah I'm not the one shifting the goalposts here...

10-13-2017 , 11:15 AM

#62223

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafja

they gave a standing ovation for "taking decisive action against those who threaten us". extremely christian.

10-13-2017 , 11:16 AM

#62224

iamnotawerewolf

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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

White Supremacists have feelings too guys!!!

Think of them as levers.

10-13-2017 , 11:18 AM

#62225

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Pretty much strawmanning. For most of the other side in this debate it's not about making the symbols illegal, but about calling them racists and such. If the you/chez/clovis position is that you don't even call them idiots, but you use your geometric logic to prove that they are idiots while you remain perfectly calm and follow Robert's rules, then you're still calling them idiots;* you're just being condescending at the same time.

*grammar nits: How would you punctuate that? comma? semi-colon? period and new sentence?

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