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10-10-2017 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Trump would def support arresting and beating kneelers. That reminds me (unfortunately) of HRC's sponsoring a law to imprison flag burners.
Let's say North Korea sends a team to the Olympics, and let's say a North Korean wins a gold medal. Should U.S. athletes stand when the North Korean anthem is played? What would Trump suggest on that?

If a Cuban citizen burns a Cuban flag, should he be punished by the Cuban government? Would like to know what Trump or even Hillary would think about that.
10-10-2017 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
They can basically keep player on 53 just keep him inactive on the 46 gameday roster. it starts getting tricky if more than 1 really good player does it. Then the question would be whether Goddell would create roster exemption for such players.
I'm pretty sure this wouldn't stand an appeal/grievance/legal action. The team owner would need to be able to plausibly explain that sitting, or not suiting, the player(s) in question was a "football decision", and not discipline. I'm pretty sure that's going to be in the CBA.

This is the same dilemma the owners are in regarding C.Kaepernick. Kaepernick's near replacement level ability gives them that plausibility. However, notice no owner has come out and directly said they won't give him a job because of his protest history.
10-10-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
This is silly, of course, but pretty much everyone needs to put distance between themselves and Weinstein going forward, no matter how much money he raised for your campaign, charity, etc. He seems like an irredeemable scumbag, and he is beyond radioactive.
Is Weinstein some sort of code for the NRA?
10-10-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Trump would cheat at the IQ test, still get sub 100 (getting help from Jared probably), and the effort would be as well orchestrated as Pence's football game stunt.
This would happen

10-10-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
This is silly, of course, but pretty much everyone needs to put distance between themselves and Weinstein going forward, no matter how much money he raised for your campaign, charity, etc. He seems like an irredeemable scumbag, and he is beyond radioactive.
the guy gave $650k to democratic candidates since 1990, he's not some puppetmaster, he produced movies that didn't have anything to do with politics and donated some of his money to his political favorites. it's not like he made his career by running a 24hour cable news network explicitly biased towards democrats, he's just a citizen and i wouldn't return the money if i were a politician. if i attended a "harvey weinstein annual political gala" i probably wouldn't anymore but that's about it.
10-10-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
This would happen

For all his foibles and insecurities, George is charming. Trump has never been charming in his life.
10-10-2017 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
I'm pretty sure this wouldn't stand an appeal/grievance/legal action. The team owner would need to be able to plausibly explain that sitting, or not suiting, the player(s) in question was a "football decision", and not discipline. I'm pretty sure that's going to be in the CBA.

This is the same dilemma the owners are in regarding C.Kaepernick. Kaepernick's near replacement level ability gives them that plausibility. However, notice no owner has come out and directly said they won't give him a job because of his protest history.
I think owners are given extreme latitude on conduct detrimental. The Eagles did it with Terrell Owens a while back. Granted different issue and time etc...
10-10-2017 , 01:00 PM
10-10-2017 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
I think owners are given extreme latitude on conduct detrimental.
In what way is kneeling detrimental?
10-10-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
In what way is kneeling detrimental?
Most players contracts are worded that detrimental is defined as reasonably judged by the club to be adversely affect or reflect on Club. The fact it is hurting attendance or fans being upset would probably be enough to warrant a club taking action.

But it would end up in court as a battle between the CBA and players contract. Doubt owners stances are going to make this go away.
10-10-2017 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vaya
Is Weinstein some sort of code for the NRA?
I wish. The NRA unfortunately is far from radioactive for GOP politicians.
10-10-2017 , 01:27 PM
Mensa offers to host Trump vs Tillerson IQ test battle

I can't believe this is real life.
10-10-2017 , 01:27 PM
~60m Americans could watch that video and conclude that 17*6=112, and any attempt to convince them otherwise would be dismissed as fake news. Anyone who claimed it's 102 would be a liberal traitor who hates freedom.
10-10-2017 , 01:27 PM
It’s amazing how Trump can feed a total non issue for weeks and have everyone fall hook line and sinker for it.

It’s hard to think of an issue that matters less to America than if football players kneel or stand but here we are weeks into it and it still takes up tons of airtime.

Why does anyone care at all about this?

It’s sad!
10-10-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
In what way is kneeling detrimental?
In the workplace, 'detrimental' means whatever the bosses don't like. FYI: the bosses never like what they consider insubordination.

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Originally Posted by maulaga58
I think owners are given extreme latitude on conduct detrimental. The Eagles did it with Terrell Owens a while back. Granted different issue and time etc...
From Wikipedia...

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... In 2005... head coach Andy Reid demanded that [Terrell] Owens make a public apology to [QB] McNabb... The following day, Reid announced that... he would be deactivated for the remainder of the season... NFL Players Association filed a grievance against the Eagles, claiming violation of the sport's collective bargaining agreement, but Owens' suspension and deactivation were upheld by an arbitrator...
Yeah, different issue. If TO could have quoted P.Tagliabue saying it's A-OK to diss D.McNabb... I'm gotta figure the arbitrator is going to rule differently.
10-10-2017 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
the guy gave $650k to democratic candidates since 1990, he's not some puppetmaster, he produced movies that didn't have anything to do with politics and donated some of his money to his political favorites. it's not like he made his career by running a 24hour cable news network explicitly biased towards democrats, he's just a citizen and i wouldn't return the money if i were a politician. if i attended a "harvey weinstein annual political gala" i probably wouldn't anymore but that's about it.
I never said that Weinstein was the Democratic version of Rupert Murdoch. I merely was observing that, if you had any sort of relationship with Harvey Weinstein, and you are asked at this point what you think of him, you have no choice but to say that you are horrified and want nothing more to do with him.

And it's not exactly selling your soul to say that you are horrified. You should be horrified.
10-10-2017 , 01:49 PM


OMG if this is true. I know one of these accounts has actually broken news.
10-10-2017 , 01:52 PM
Isn't the rogue White House one of those that were pretty conclusively shown to be false as in the person running it most certainly isn't in the White House?
10-10-2017 , 01:54 PM
if somebody made that twitter purely for the lols it's working rn
10-10-2017 , 01:55 PM
There's multiple rogue white house accounts I think.
10-10-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
It’s amazing how Trump can feed a total non issue for weeks and have everyone fall hook line and sinker for it.

It’s hard to think of an issue that matters less to America than if football players kneel or stand but here we are weeks into it and it still takes up tons of airtime.

Why does anyone care at all about this?
true but many americans insist that everyone should do what they are told by those in power.
10-10-2017 , 01:57 PM
Unless it's a black guy.
10-10-2017 , 01:57 PM
I like that there’s now a legit possibility that trump gets himself removed from office by taking an IQ test and showing he's mentally subnormal
10-10-2017 , 02:01 PM
IQ tests take waaaay too long for dumb Donnie to actually take one.
10-10-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
Sure, there's a non-zero chance that he brings about the end of humanity.


Buuuuuuuuuut, there's also a chance they can cut taxes for the rich, and put the browns back in their place! Also, emails. So.

      
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