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02-06-2017 , 03:59 AM
Shouldn't the thread title be 50 stars?
02-06-2017 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man
Shouldn't the thread title be 50 stars?
Trump is announcing an EO on monday to combine the west coast into a single state and the North East into a single state. Star count is accurate.
02-06-2017 , 04:34 AM
Hell of a 10th post in 3.5 years.
02-06-2017 , 04:35 AM
Aa massacre actually did take place at the tip of Manhattan, though not by the nefarious “Muslim terrorists” whom Conway would have us fear. The real Bowling Green Massacre occurred in 1643 during what was known as Kieft’s War, and was perpetrated by white Christians. The Governor of New Netherlands Willem Kieft, sent European soldiers to move against two camps of refugee Natives, overriding the direction of his ruling council and the general sentiments of the colonists. The soldiers fell upon members of the Lenape Tribe with deeds that would long presage the notion of ISIS.

https://indiancountrymedianetwork.co...en-massacre-2/

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02-06-2017 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Um thread title is amazing.
i actually got my hopes up and thought there was a tiny chance he had gotten killed or something yesterday
02-06-2017 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
We'd already be involved in war, eh? On day 17?
because clinton foundation. you know, the charity that spends hundreds of millions of dollars trying to find and administer cures for disease and stuff like that.

what a ****ing moron
02-06-2017 , 08:00 AM
Not sure if I'm ponied here or what, but this was the original version of a statement posted on the White House website:



Name missing, and the "President of Australia" is not a thing that exists.

I mean, are these clowns ****ing kidding me? I'm not sure which is more likely, that they are too incompetent to look up the leader of Australia on Wikipedia, or that they are deliberately trolling Australia for displeasing the Fuhrer. I'm also not sure which is worse.
02-06-2017 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
They fully support active troops, after that **** em.
if by "fully support", you mean send them off to die so that defense contractors can profit, then yes, yes they do.
02-06-2017 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I'm not sure which is more likely, that they are too incompetent to look up the leader of Australia on Wikipedia, or that they are deliberately trolling Australia for displeasing the Fuhrer. I'm also not sure which is worse.
I've bookmarked this post since I expect to deploy it ~2 or 3 times per month for the next 1 to 8 years:

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Originally Posted by DVaut1
The difference between cruelty and incompetence is often blurry. That blurriness itself isn't even a vague legal concept: We even have a definition of legal conduct known as negligence which is basically the failure to protect others against unreasonable risk of harm. The idea is usually applied to criminal conduct when parents leave their kids in a car all night while they go out to party or sit in a casino or something.

Is the Trump Admin strictly offensive, cruel and actively trying to harm people, or just too stupid and careless to care? Well, I'd ask: why should we care? The question gets to the collective Trump Admin mens rea so to speak, but we don't need to bother with it. The results speak for themselves.

A certain class of soft-Trumpkins or Trumpkin admirers with enough self-awareness to not totally grovel at his feet will try this game with normal people where they admit Trump maybe does some bad things but it's just because he's so eager to act, like an effective executive, sometimes he just can't iron out the details, but he means well. The path to making America Great Again will have some broken eggs, they say, but Trump is a fantastic chef, just look at what a successful businessman he is!

Don't fall for that, don't engage in the discussion, don't care about his mental state in that way. It's just an excuse. The distinction between ineptness and targeted-abusive behavior isn't always clear but the standard we've always or should always hold executives to is that you need not care where the line is drawn because either is a drastic failure. These kinds of questions hold sway when judging the conduct of like third-world doctors not washing their hands with anti-bacterial soap during an environmental catastrophe when performing an emergency amputation because it wasn't nearby. Trump is under no such constraints, he has no excuse, careful crafting and execution of the laws is one of the core competencies of the job, not some trivial detail.
Obviously in this case the mistake, either intentional or not, is trivial in the grand scheme of Trump. But I think it's important critics stop asking themselves this specific question. With Trump, I'm convinced the line is intentionally blurry. He doesn't want your respect for his aptitude or competence like most people, so once he's dispensed of that, appearing stupid is an asset for grift and malfeasance.
02-06-2017 , 08:08 AM
Let the morning twitter rants begin...


Last edited by kep; 02-06-2017 at 08:11 AM. Reason: lol is this real life
02-06-2017 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
happened around noon. he thinks it was the bird, and that's a real possibility.
looool this is almost as good an explanation as trump being assassinated
02-06-2017 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kep
Let the morning twitter rants begin...

Just in case there was any doubt about the level of delusion we are dealing with here.
02-06-2017 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kep
Let the morning twitter rants begin...

ONLY I TELL THE TRUTH

ONLY I CAN BE BELIEVED

waaf
02-06-2017 , 08:17 AM
Looks like the 538 gang is going to have to call an emergency podcast over Trump saying he accumulates his own data.
02-06-2017 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
Here's something to contemplate. Exactly one week ago this time all sorts of people were all up in arms about the ban EO, it really felt like a big time political crisis. But now it has passed into just another thing that happened in the past, and there is not much talk about it. This is a long game and it needs to be played that way. The Trump group is not going to fall apart overnight. They can do the most outrageous things and yet that too will pass into a distant memory quicker than you think.
that isn't accurate, it's actively being fought in the court system and numerous judges have put stays on the order. we are winning that fight, and it's important that we look forward to the next one.
02-06-2017 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
happened around noon. he thinks it was the bird, and that's a real possibility.
the bird for moderator!1!
02-06-2017 , 09:00 AM
and 90% of republicans approve of his actions in the first two weeks


can we never ever EVER pretend that any strategy other than "get out the democratic base to vote" is even a remotely viable plan. these people are ****ing insane. moderate republicans do not exist
02-06-2017 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mutigers
and 90% of republicans approve of his actions in the first two weeks
Republican voters? Or Republican politicians?

Was there a poll released saying that?

I'm not denying that it's a possibility. But I really thought the approval would be lower.
02-06-2017 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mutigers
and 90% of republicans approve of his actions in the first two weeks


can we never ever EVER pretend that any strategy other than "get out the democratic base to vote" is even a remotely viable plan. these people are ****ing insane. moderate republicans do not exist
this. obstruct everything, everywhere, communicate a clear message of why donald trump AND REPUBLICANS pose a threat to the very fabric of this nation, be extremely vocal/critical both in the media and in phone calls/letters/emails to state and local representatives, boycott companies who support their agenda, and focus on mobilizing turnout in midterms/local races. it's basically the only way to save this country.
02-06-2017 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mutigers
and 90% of republicans approve of his actions in the first two weeks


can we never ever EVER pretend that any strategy other than "get out the democratic base to vote" is even a remotely viable plan. these people are ****ing insane. moderate republicans do not exist
I am not going to argue against your conclusion (I largely agree that the "resistance" should be turning out the base) but want to point out that a lot of these polls treat leaners and independents differently. The poll you are referencing might have defined "republican" as the most party faithful and represent a somewhat small part of the electorate.
02-06-2017 , 09:29 AM
Trump apparently not happy about talks of "President Bannon".

02-06-2017 , 09:31 AM
yea it's a remarkably simple and brilliant tactic to use against an unfettered narcissist. the best way to spur infighting is to publish reports/allegations of him not being in full control, make him seem weak/stupid/etc and leverage any disagreements/disputes amongst those in his inner circle
02-06-2017 , 09:33 AM
too funny cnn trying to pound some guy for not having apples to apples comparisons, this is the clinton news network wanting transparency (even though BERNIE got none)

that dude just told cnn not to make news out of 2 minutes soundbytes LOVE IT

REAL ? - They keep saying russia effeceted the outcome of the election, and Im wondering how. did they change actual votes after people casted them. Did they vote for people before those people could vote? Did they add extra votes from people that were dead or something? Did they change the number by hacking into servers after the votes were counted?

They could only change the outcome of the election if they changed added or deleted votes somehow. Is that what is being said if not how did they effect the actual outcome. And hacking into the DNC servers is not the answers cause as donna brazil would tell you, we dont know if those emails were tampered with (all the time CNN gave her too)
02-06-2017 , 09:34 AM
I had to read that tweet 5 times to understand his point. I think lil' Donnie is starting to lose it.
02-06-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OutTaGetMe
too funny cnn trying to pound some guy for not having apples to apples comparisons, this is the clinton news network wanting transparency (even though BERNIE got none)

that dude just told cnn not to make news out of 2 minutes soundbytes LOVE IT

REAL ? - They keep saying russia effeceted the outcome of the election, and Im wondering how. did they change actual votes after people casted them. Did they vote for people before those people could vote? Did they add extra votes from people that were dead or something? Did they change the number by hacking into servers after the votes were counted?

They could only change the outcome of the election if they changed added or deleted votes somehow. Is that what is being said if not how did they effect the actual outcome. And hacking into the DNC servers is not the answers cause as donna brazil would tell you, we dont know if those emails were tampered with (all the time CNN gave her too)
Congrats. You have proved you are not intelligent. Run along now. Back to /the Donald.

      
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