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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-23-2017 , 04:23 PM
Amazingly, I think we are drawing live for a violent removal from office for Trump.
01-23-2017 , 04:30 PM
Angry scolding liar was to lower expectations so that friendly jovial liar could get the job done.
01-23-2017 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Seems to me like the Rubio/Cruz wing of the party are pretty transparently hedging their bets. They are posturing some mix of Trump obstructionism followed by eventual obedience.
I can understand this strategy concerning Rubio et al., but what has McCain got to gain/lose. He must be 115 or something. Lindsey Graham should also be old enough to retire. If you can't take a principled stand then, when will you do it? Losers.
01-23-2017 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Angry scolding liar was to lower expectations so that friendly jovial liar could get the job done.
i was relieved he didn't yell things and storm out without taking questions. #LoweredExpectations
01-23-2017 , 04:45 PM
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I can understand this strategy concerning Rubio et al., but what has McCain got to gain/lose. He must be 115 or something. Lindsey Graham should also be old enough to retire. If you can't take a principled stand then, when will you do it? Losers.
My guess is they are concerned that total refutation of Trump in isolation will leave them on a veritable island, powerless and without allies, and might rightfully cause a revolt in their caucus (not a bad bet). Joe Lieberman could have hung on as a super powerful Senator for another decade and traded most of it in for some high-fives from FNC pundits. You can question the wisdom of it in hindsight. McCain especially seems to cherish his role as Chair of the Armed Services Committee. Graham just got done running for President and also seems to remain ambitious and want power. From there you can justify your principled stand as, well, I'm better as a Trump foil from my powerful Senate position than totally on the sidelines.

In other words, I don't think these guys are D*AGF mode yet. They're exercising the boundaries but falling into line in the end. That's probably good enough for Trump for now but I still think the LIFO model applies and he will have far less political capital than other Presidents, no matter how much we think he violates all of the old rules, no one can fade facts forever. If he has a few bad events and the public sours, these guys (Rubio, Cruz, McCain, Graham et al) are going to jump hard and fast imo.
01-23-2017 , 04:46 PM


Two types of men.
01-23-2017 , 04:47 PM
Marks out of 10 for day one of Trumps presidency?
01-23-2017 , 04:49 PM
I realize it's about their careers and influence, but McCain is 80 and just won reelection, for Trump's sake.

Anyway, this video from Dutch television, introducing the Netherlands to the new POTUS is absolutely fantastic. Believe me, you've got to see this. It's great:

01-23-2017 , 04:54 PM
erg goed
01-23-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GermanGuy
I can understand this strategy concerning Rubio et al., but what has McCain got to gain/lose. He must be 115 or something. Lindsey Graham should also be old enough to retire. If you can't take a principled stand then, when will you do it? Losers.
When you live your adult life as a politician, politics often becomes the principle. McCain always feels the pull of partisanship and the desire to cozy up next to power. It resides deep in his soul. The idea of becoming isolated fills him with fear.
01-23-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GermanGuy
I realize it's about their careers and influence, but McCain is 80 and just won reelection, for Trump's sake.

Anyway, this video from Dutch television, introducing the Netherlands to the new POTUS is absolutely fantastic. Believe me, you've got to see this. It's great:

rofl amazing
01-23-2017 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GermanGuy
I realize it's about their careers and influence, but McCain is 80 and just won reelection, for Trump's sake.

Anyway, this video from Dutch television, introducing the Netherlands to the new POTUS is absolutely fantastic. Believe me, you've got to see this. It's great:

Grab em by the pony and Netherland Second was wonderful
01-23-2017 , 05:22 PM
Scaryanne now says Trump will release his taxes once the audit is complete. JFC
01-23-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Scaryanne now says Trump will release his taxes once the audit is complete. JFC
they stopped bull****ting us on this issue for 2 days and got major backlash, so now they're back to straight up lying to everyone
01-23-2017 , 05:31 PM



WTF is patriotic devotion? This is some scary ****.
01-23-2017 , 05:32 PM
Spicer said there was 1 or 2 calls to Russia during conference.

Actual calls from sources: 5
01-23-2017 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Scaryanne now says Trump will release his taxes once the audit is complete. JFC
WTF? Has the IRS confirmed that he is or isn't under audit?
01-23-2017 , 06:22 PM
They've confirmed he's under audit but also confirmed that doesn't stop him from releasing a god damn thing.
01-23-2017 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
So conflict of interest and business dealings are a big concern for you? Just think about the fact clinton supporters are deeply concerned at this via trumps tax returns vs the clintons incredible track record
No one gives a **** about Clinton anymore stop deflecting.
01-23-2017 , 06:31 PM
Indivisible: A PRACTICAL GUIDE FOR RESISTING THE TRUMP AGENDA

Former congressional staffers reveal best practices for making Congress listen.

https://www.indivisibleguide.com/
01-23-2017 , 06:50 PM
I wonder what's it like to be the guy at the IRS responsible for his audit.
01-23-2017 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
They've confirmed he's under audit but also confirmed that doesn't stop him from releasing a god damn thing.
No they have not. They are prohibited from discussing individual situations. So they can not confirm if he was being audited. They did give a general "nothing prohibits a person from sharing their own tax information." But that is as far as they are allowed to go.
01-23-2017 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz



WTF is patriotic devotion? This is some scary ****.
Lol, THATS the big Patriotism Day? He basically renamed his inauguration Donald Trump Day? Did he award himself the key to the city while he was at it?
01-23-2017 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Scaryanne now says Trump will release his taxes once the audit is complete. JFC
But according to trump he has been under audit for last fifteen years so still never.
01-23-2017 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by True North
Lol, THATS the big Patriotism Day? He basically renamed his inauguration Donald Trump Day? Did he award himself the key to the city while he was at it?
Lol he really does want it to end up Donald trump day.

Never seen a guy so bothered about getting credit for winning an election before, he seems obsessed with having won the election and not anything about doing the actual job.

Perhaps it is an issue if presidents never ran for any office before. We might need a lower level of government to let out these glory hounds.

      
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