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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-04-2017 , 11:43 PM
rn the president is rooting for isis to attack inside the usa so he can tweet that he was right
02-04-2017 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
rn the president is rooting for isis to attack inside the usa so he can tweet that he was right
Don't know if you know this or not but Donald Trump is president of the United States.
02-04-2017 , 11:53 PM
Is there some established narrative tradition I don't know about where everything Trump, the GOP and their fan base are doing right now isn't evil? I mean, I can't claim to have read every book, seen every movie, or listened to every fable passed down through the generations, but I have been exposed to quite a lot of them. Based on all the stories we tell ourselves to help us understand who we are, I'm pretty sure Trump is the bad guy.
02-04-2017 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
rn the president is rooting for isis to attack inside the usa so he can tweet that he was right
I saw things on Twitter today saying that Van Jones sort of hinted at the idea he thinks Trump may orchestrate a fake terrorist attack using secret service whereby nobody gets killed or hurt in order to try and justify his order.
02-05-2017 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Can you provide an example of what you're talking about? I still don't get it.
There's 160 EC votes bound to the compact. If the states the GOP moves to proportional put that at or above 270...
02-05-2017 , 12:12 AM
The GOP narrative is all about deflection and projection right now, the most common being Liberals are the ones harboring the hatred
02-05-2017 , 12:20 AM
Political gaslighting has won them everything
02-05-2017 , 12:28 AM
I wish I could witness the GOP reaction in the alternate universe where Obama or Clinton said what Trump said to O'Reilly in that interview.
02-05-2017 , 12:46 AM
SNL opening with President Bannon and Trump at a kiddie desk will undoubtedly infuriate trump. Here's hoping all the attention Bannon's been getting will drive a wedge between the two, Trump obviously being the jealous type.

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02-05-2017 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
There's 160 EC votes bound to the compact. If the states the GOP moves to proportional put that at or above 270...
Yeah, I think the problem is that you don't understand how it works.

There are 160 right now. It can't go above 160 without adding states. For all the other states are not in the compact, it doesn't matter what GOP does in those states.

Furthermore if those states were to join the compact at some point, then they would cease being proportional. Compact requires that they are winner take all based on national popular vote. It is not possible to both be part of the compact and be proportional (after it's triggered).

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02-05-2017 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
I wish I could witness the GOP reaction in the alternate universe where Obama or Clinton said what Trump said to O'Reilly in that interview.
Yea especially when they got so mad Obama "apologized" for the US doing wrong things in history. Their hypocrisy is truly a marvel.
02-05-2017 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
The GOP narrative is all about deflection and projection right now, the most common being Liberals are the ones harboring the hatred
Last week liberals were pussies with safe spaces. This week they are violent leftists wreaking havoc and harboring hatred!

Who knows what they'll be next week??


The propaganda machine on the right is strong and Trumpers eat it up.
02-05-2017 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
SNL opening with President Bannon and Trump at a kiddie desk will undoubtedly infuriate trump. Here's hoping all the attention Bannon's been getting will drive a wedge between the two, Trump obviously being the jealous tyoe.
Yea the easiest way to put Trump on tilt is to make it look like he's the beta in the relationship. They should do it with Melania/Ivanka too.
02-05-2017 , 01:10 AM
Melissa McCarthy as raging Sean Spicer was pretty funny, especially when she accidentally read her password in the presser.
02-05-2017 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
There's 160 EC votes bound to the compact. If the states the GOP moves to proportional put that at or above 270...
No, that wouldn't work. Proportional doesn't satisfy the compact. The compact is that once enough states join the compact that all the compact states have a combined 270 Electoral votes, then the compact kicks in and those states will all award their electoral votes to the national popular vote winner on a winner takes all basis. This would effectively make the popular vote winner always the electoral vote winner since they would get at least 270 electoral college votes from those states. Awarding the votes proportionally does not satisfy that (nor would it work), because it wouldn't necessarily mean the national vote winner would get the 270 electoral votes.
02-05-2017 , 02:24 AM
It is not just the electoral college. It is that they have figured out that 100% partisan politics is not punished by the public. Nor is absolutely blatant hypocrisy where the jobs report is fixed literally until Trump is president and then it is real, until it stops being positive, then it is fixed again. Our political system requires that both parties operate with some amount of good faith or the public punishes them for not doing so.
02-05-2017 , 02:25 AM
Man Trump's gonna go ballistic when he sees that isn't he? A woman playing the man that is seen as his puppet master.

There's a non zero chance he does something crazy enough that the Super Bowl isn't played. (Granted it's 0.0001% but still)
02-05-2017 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
["Virtue signal"] This is becoming an incredibly useful shibboleth.
Excellent point

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dutiful condemnation of selfies, reflexive scorn for CGI in movies etc - these are the interesting and illuminating instances of virtue signalling imo).
FU selfies are from the debil!
02-05-2017 , 02:27 AM
Each state has a certifying official, the compact means that they must accept each other's certifications. I can envision a situation where the official in say Missouri declares that the certificaton in California is not valid because of the inclusion of invalid votes and it changes the national result. Literally every state becomes the judge of every other state's procedures and the officials (who are elected with R or D behind their names) will believe it is their duty to not accept tainted results from any other state. Ask youself would both Democrat and Republican officials from dozens of states have accepted the Florida 2000 result with unanimity? It could be a big mess.
02-05-2017 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
It is not just the electoral college. It is that they have figured out that 100% partisan politics is not punished by the public. Nor is absolutely blatant hypocrisy where the jobs report is fixed literally until Trump is president and then it is real, until it stops being positive, then it is fixed again. Our political system requires that both parties operate with some amount of good faith or the public punishes them for not doing so.
I've actually brought this up w/ conservative friends. I'll mention the metrics under Obama are the same metrics under Bush and Reagan. Then I'll mention how the Baby Boomers are now retiring. It just goes in one ear and out the other. *shrugs*
02-05-2017 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DeroDeniro
pure genius
02-05-2017 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunkman
I mean, maybe not? I know like the Trump voters in my family are legitimately afraid of pretty much everything. My brother will go on for hours about fantasies involving home intruders, he puts a gun in his wife's purse when they go to the movies, etc. None of them are preppers but the doomsday scenarios seem to always been just below the surface and come up in passing regularly. What the right-wing media has done to the rest of us is minimal compared to the constant, all-consuming fear they've inflicted upon their audience.
Why doesn't he put it on his hip like a normal person?
02-05-2017 , 03:01 AM
I so want all this to be true: http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/02/medi...ump/index.html

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Stern and Trump are long-time friends, with Trump making numerous appearances on Stern's radio show over the years.

"I personally wish that he had never run, I told him that, because I actually think this is something that is gonna be detrimental to his mental health too, because, he wants to be liked, he wants to be loved," Stern said. "He wants people to cheer for him."

"I don't think it's going to be a healthy experience. And by the way, he's now on this anti-Hollywood kick. He loves Hollywood. First of all, he loves the press. He lives for it. He loves people in Hollywood. He only wants hobnob with them. All of this hatred and stuff directed towards him. It's not good for him. It's not good. There's a reason every president who leaves the office has grey hair."
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"And I remember him being very--I mean he was pro-abortion. So the new Donald Trump kind of surprised me."

Stern said he doesn't believe Trump has had a change of heart on issues like abortion, but is instead playing to his base.

The radio host said he also believed Trump ran for president solely to get a larger contract from NBC for "The Apprentice."

"I think it started out as like a kinda cool, fun thing to do in order to get a couple more bucks out of NBC for The Apprentice, I actually do believe that," Stern said.
02-05-2017 , 03:10 AM
I mean, I'd bet on all of that being true at evens if it were possible (maybe not that he ran specifically to get money out of NBC, but that he didn't run intending to make a serious effort to win).

I also think it's inevitable that his mental health is going to decline, how could it be otherwise? Take a narcissist, someone who constructs their entire world around their self-image, and subject them to constant questioning, criticism, hatred etc. It's their kryptonite.

      
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