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09-08-2017 , 10:46 PM
fatkid was not being serious synth

Obama got away with some things. The continued expansion of the surveillance state after claiming that he would rein it in and blatant disregard for civilian life in the use of the government drone strike program are pretty big deals that occurred under his watch.

That said, it's less than a drop in a bucket compared to what is slowly becoming the norm in 2017.
09-08-2017 , 10:58 PM
My Republican army fellows, doctors, and surgeons assure me that Obama droning citizens was the only thing he did that they approved of. Also, they hate Obamacare because they are busier, don't understand marginal taxes, and pay for the poors they are treating.
09-08-2017 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Lol no scandals.

IRS Targeting Scandal
VA Waiting List
GSA Spending Spree
Tan Suit
Benghazi
Emails
Fast and Furious
Solyndra
New Black Panther Party
Grey Poop on
Iran nuke deal
DOJ spies on AP reporters
Obamacare false promises
Illegal-alien amnesty
Bergdahl swap
Extortion 17
Recess appointments
Appointment of ‘czars’ without Senate approval
Suing Arizona- election law
Refusal to defend Defense of Marriage Act
Illegal Libyan war
NSA: Spying on me jacking peen
Muslim Brotherhood ties
Birth certificate?
Executive orders to circumvent congress
Sucking at dealing w Egypt
let's not forget the biggest scandal of them all: the chipotle sneeze guard scandal of '14
09-08-2017 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hacksaw JD
let's not forget the biggest scandal of them all: the chipotle sneeze guard scandal of '14
I have tan suit over that one.
09-08-2017 , 11:01 PM
He forgot the infamous latte salute.

Some of Obama's pardons were pretty debateable, surprised both these items were not on the list.
09-08-2017 , 11:04 PM
Poupon mustard was definitely the worst.
09-08-2017 , 11:17 PM
Just watched "the brainwashing of my dad." Covers the right wing outrage machine pretty damn well.
09-08-2017 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hacksaw JD
Indeed. The fact that Obama remained basically scandal free (an impossibility in politics) and America still thought, "yep, i need a pussy grabber" is just ****ing depressing.
It really is. I'm going to have a low-grade depression for at least 4 years. I've had a really good week this week and it's like an average week 2 years ago.

I just can't look at this country or a lot of my friends and family members the same. I see now how if **** ever really hits the fan, and our govt moves to commit atrocities or end democracy, it will be trivially easy to get them to buy into excuses and deflections. They would absolutely be the nice Nazis who looked the other way and tried to ignore everything going on around them. At best.
09-08-2017 , 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatkid
Lol no scandals.

IRS Targeting Scandal
VA Waiting List
GSA Spending Spree
Tan Suit
Benghazi
Emails
Fast and Furious
Solyndra
New Black Panther Party
Grey Poop on
Iran nuke deal
DOJ spies on AP reporters
Obamacare false promises
Illegal-alien amnesty
Bergdahl swap
Extortion 17
Recess appointments
Appointment of ‘czars’ without Senate approval
Suing Arizona- election law
Refusal to defend Defense of Marriage Act
Illegal Libyan war
NSA: Spying on me jacking peen
Muslim Brotherhood ties
Birth certificate?
Executive orders to circumvent congress
Sucking at dealing w Egypt
I bolded the actual scandals for you.
09-08-2017 , 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fuluck414
Just watched "the brainwashing of my dad." Covers the right wing outrage machine pretty damn well.


Or you can just watch this.
09-08-2017 , 11:41 PM
Is that awval?
09-08-2017 , 11:42 PM
shirtsleeves... in the Oval Office! *faints*
09-09-2017 , 12:25 AM
Fail: Bengazi only mentioned once. Also it's Beeeeennnngggaaaazzziiiii
09-09-2017 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
shirtsleeves... in the Oval Office! *faints*
Was coming to post this, but latte salute is probably second to Barack Hussein Obama.



The thing that strikes me about Trump's latest tweets is they all remind me of how excited he was at the positive press he got for the three-month debt ceiling thing. His tweets after that seem like they're almost desperately begging for more praise specifically from the press. Maybe praise from fake news is so much sweeter, after the pounding he's been taking from them, that it's a bigger high than the normal stuff he gets from Fox and the rubes at his rallies.

His ghost writer for Art of the Deal wrote about a party Trump went to with old-money elites in Florida where Trump was doing his normal braggadocio routine. He was despondent afterward and asked Shapiro "Why don't they like me?" This doesn't discount the racism he likely picked up from his KKK daddy, his impressive narcissism, his con-man guiding star, or any of the other stuff, but the last few days he seems like a little kid who so, so desperately wants to be liked--not even elevated and told he's the best like normal, just accepted with a pat on the head.

I mean... **** him, but I almost feel pity for him.

ETA: Full disclosure, I got a similar feeling at one point in the campaign about HRC, also, so what the hell do I know?
09-09-2017 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
It really is. I'm going to have a low-grade depression for at least 4 years. I've had a really good week this week and it's like an average week 2 years ago.

I just can't look at this country or a lot of my friends and family members the same. I see now how if **** ever really hits the fan, and our govt moves to commit atrocities or end democracy, it will be trivially easy to get them to buy into excuses and deflections. They would absolutely be the nice Nazis who looked the other way and tried to ignore everything going on around them. At best.
yep
09-09-2017 , 01:01 AM
When white supremacists and literal Nazis march, the ****ing POTUS says there's good people on both sides, a Nazi runs over 19 protestors - and your takeaway is "but antifa" or "muh free speech". Yeah, you'll look the other way when **** really goes down.
09-09-2017 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
fatkid was not being serious synth

Obama got away with some things. The continued expansion of the surveillance state after claiming that he would rein it in and blatant disregard for civilian life in the use of the government drone strike program are pretty big deals that occurred under his watch.

That said, it's less than a drop in a bucket compared to what is slowly becoming the norm in 2017.
Nark

Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
I bolded the actual scandals for you.
Thanks but no.
09-09-2017 , 01:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
I have tan suit over that one.
Hip-hop BBQ deserves a mention.

09-09-2017 , 01:56 AM
The tan suit messed me up for a day and a half.
09-09-2017 , 02:51 AM
Mom jeans
09-09-2017 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
chezlaw being incredibly credulous of horse**** denials by obvious ideologues is why the forum you modded got deleted, tho
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Maybe when someone whose forum DIDN'T get deleted for excessive Nazi posting tells you that sometimes people lie you should think to listen and learn instead of lecture.
chez has gone to plaid


09-09-2017 , 09:52 AM
Pajama boy was pretty sordid.
09-09-2017 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Yeah, I don't think Fox is flipping people who hold truly progressive views, but they are preying on the worst parts of people's personalities. They are keeping people in a constant state of outrage, and I swear they become addicted to it.
I can agree with this. I think it's actually FNC's worst aspect. Sure, it's super ****ing racist but the deeply unhealthy thing about FNC is how stressful it is to watch their network. I mean that sincerely; not a healthy thing to do all day.
09-09-2017 , 10:48 AM
I can't watch for more than 30 seconds max.

But yeah - it turns into a negative compulsion for some of their viewers.
09-09-2017 , 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
It really is. I'm going to have a low-grade depression for at least 4 years. I've had a really good week this week and it's like an average week 2 years ago.

I just can't look at this country or a lot of my friends and family members the same. I see now how if **** ever really hits the fan,and our govt moves to commit atrocities or end democracy, it will be trivially easy to get them to buy into excuses and deflections. They would absolutely be the nice Nazis who looked the other way and tried to ignore everything going on around them. At best.
I feel like I respond to you a lot, but probably only because you're a little more open-book than some people.

Here's the thing I DON'T understand about this take. And it's common. SURELY you must have at some point internalized that atrocities are common in our history. Like, you can't look at this country the same *if*, gasp, SOMEDAY, we commit an atrocity? IF!?

trailoftears.jpg
lynched_slave_being_pointed_at_by_entire_town_of_s outhern_white_folk.jpg
MyLai.jpg
LynndieEngland.jpg

Or whatever, that SNL skit with Chappelle right after the election with all those despondent white people after Trump was elected.

America has always been populated by metric ****tons of angry bloodthirsty racist idiots. Your depression is understandable. Its temporal nature is not.

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